Personally, I would appreciate reading through it. If you had any more time, I would welcome you to be part of an effort to build a 'bot that could at least provide fair competition (50%/50% chance of winning) to the best INL teams that still exist. If you have no time, or have since become bored with the idea, that's ok as well. mark On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 03:42:21PM -0500, Brian Paulsen wrote: > Ok. I have to step in here... > > I wrote Freebot and I pretty aware of what it can and can't do. > > First, it was not part of a doctoral dissertation. It was a product of a > bunch of free time that I had on my hands. The code was greatly geared > towards being the ultimate dogfighter and I began adding some code to have > it try to do things like take planets. > > As such, I'm willing to bet that there isn't a person around who can out > dogfight the thing. And I'm willing to bet that there are few INL teams > that couldn't beat a team of Freebots. Could it geno a team of Freebots? I > don't know. > > As far as I know, the only time that anybody has played against a team of > Freebots was very early in the coding of the thing. At that time, it had > numerous dogfighting bugs which made it a bit easier to kill. > > The way I see it, any bot should easily beat any human in a dogfight. Given > this, the strategy of a bot team may be greatly different than that of a > human team. Also, a first goal of a bot team may be to win the front line > and the agris and then just maintain that. I wouldn't worry at all about > trying to knock a team past the core planets. > > When I get a chance, I'll release the bot code that I have as public source > and we can build on top of that. > > Brian > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Trent Piepho" <xyzzy at speakeasy.org> > To: <vanilla-list at us.netrek.org> > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 2:07 PM > Subject: Re: [Vanilla List] Growing Netrek - Measures > > > > On Thu, 6 Dec 2001, Mark Mielke wrote: > > > You are telling me that I am approaching things from the wrong angle. I > > > ask you... when was the last time you wrote a bot that could > successfully > > > win against most, if not all INL teams? > > > > When was the last time you did it? > > > > Freebot was the product of someone's doctoral dissertation, and a team of > > freebots isn't that hard to beat. I think you'll find, like everyone else > who > > has tried, that writing a good bot for netrek is hard, and making a bot > team > > that can be humans is next to impossible. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > vanilla-list mailing list > > vanilla-list at us.netrek.org > > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > vanilla-list mailing list > vanilla-list at us.netrek.org > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list -- mark at mielke.cc/markm at ncf.ca/markm at nortelnetworks.com __________________________ . . _ ._ . . .__ . . ._. .__ . . . .__ | Neighbourhood Coder |\/| |_| |_| |/ |_ |\/| | |_ | |/ |_ | | | | | | \ | \ |__ . | | .|. |__ |__ | \ |__ | Ottawa, Ontario, Canada One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them, one ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them... http://mark.mielke.cc/