I thought the astro.ufl server was serving the newbie role. Today we had two full games simultaneously -- when was the last time we had the? Worse players tend to flock to astro, and I think it has some sort of auto-robot entry. The fact that you can upgrade to GA if you have 5 kills doesn't make much difference. From: "Karthik Arumugham" <karthik at karthik.com> > If I were to bring it back myself, I'd bring back the latest version with > the tutorial (see http://tutorial.psychosis.net/), and I'd probably also add > in the autoejecter I was thinking about (eject anyone with > 1.0 offense or > something like that, to keep non-newbies out). How do you know that exactly the top 50% of players would be non-newbies? Perhaps it would be useful if you used the 1.0 offense KPH of continuum rather than newbie itself. Dan Damouth