From vanillatrek at yahoo.com Wed Sep 24 06:32:46 2003 From: vanillatrek at yahoo.com (Zach) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:50:15 2005 Subject: [Netrek Clients] client authentication problems (COW & BRMH) Message-ID: <20030924113246.82905.qmail@web21103.mail.yahoo.com> I've downloaded the latest COW client from CVS and the latest BRMH (2.4.0) client. Where do I get the blessed keyfiles for COW (CVW) and BRMH (2.4)? When I compile these clients it generates a new (obviously non-blessed) keyfile since it says no existing keyfile is found. The 2 linux precompiled binaries for brmh did not work so I have to compile the client myself to run it. Zach __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ vanilla-clients mailing list vanilla-clients@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-clients From quozl at us.netrek.org Wed Sep 24 06:51:44 2003 From: quozl at us.netrek.org (James Cameron) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:50:15 2005 Subject: [Netrek Clients] client authentication problems (COW & BRMH) In-Reply-To: <20030924113246.82905.qmail@web21103.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030924113246.82905.qmail@web21103.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030924115144.GI32667@us.netrek.org> On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 04:32:46AM -0700, Zach wrote: > I've downloaded the latest COW client from CVS and the > latest BRMH (2.4.0) client. Doesn't tell me really what you downloaded, though I presume with the CVS you fetched the HEAD vesrions of each element in the repository. > Where do I get the blessed keyfiles for COW (CVW) and BRMH > (2.4)? The question doesn't make sense to me. What makes you think you need them? What are they, do you think? > When I compile these clients it generates a new (obviously > non-blessed) keyfile since it says no existing keyfile is > found. Good, it's working fine. > The 2 linux precompiled binaries for brmh did not work so I > have to compile the client myself to run it. Why did they not work? Presumably it is something wrong with your system? The conclusion doesn't follow from the evidence. I don't really know what you are trying to achieve. -- James Cameron mailto:quozl@us.netrek.org http://quozl.netrek.org/ _______________________________________________ vanilla-clients mailing list vanilla-clients@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-clients From Norton_AntiVirus_Gateways at uni.net Sun Sep 7 12:34:56 2003 From: Norton_AntiVirus_Gateways at uni.net (Norton_AntiVirus_Gateways@uni.net) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:50:48 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] Virus! 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From: Subject: Re: Details Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2003 12:34:50 --0500 Size: 1958 Url: http://shadowknight.real-time.com/pipermail/netrek-dev/attachments/20030907/6e0a6f66/attachment.mht From vanillatrek at yahoo.com Mon Sep 15 05:20:15 2003 From: vanillatrek at yahoo.com (Zach) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:50:48 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] BRMH - requesting new maintainership and res-rsa questions In-Reply-To: <20030722232037.817.qmail@web21102.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030915102015.851.qmail@web21108.mail.yahoo.com> AFAIK Karth is no longer maintaing BRMH. There have been no source changes in 3.5 years (since 03/25/00) so unless anyone objects I'd like to take over maintaining this client. I have a few questions regarding RES-RSA: I downloaded rsares-rsa-2.9.2.tar.gz from ftp://ftp.netrek.org/pub/netrek/ The INSTALL file says to run './configure; make mkkey' to create the client key generator program. Ok first I had to hack the configure.in and run with: ./configure --with-gmp=./gmp-4.1.2 --libdir=/usr/local/lib --includedir=/usr/local/include to make it happy. Then it could said during configure: checking for mpz_fdiv_q_ui in -lgmp... no I don't know what version that funtion was for but it isn't used in gmp-4.1.2 Anyways the configure still completed fine. The INSTALL says to then run "make mkkey" but this is redundant since mkkey is generated by the ./configure script running. INSTALl then says: "Run the mkkey program in your client source directory with the appropriate arguments. It will create rsa_box*.c files and the RSA keypair needed to build an RSA-enabled client." That is all the documentation I could find with the res-rsa package. However the brmh-2.4.0 INSTALL file says: mkkey key_name client_type architecture/OS creator comments So I think it would be a good idea for this extra documentation to be merged into the res-rsa INSTALL file. Anyways I am a bit confused as to how I get the secret key that I've just created blessed? Do I send my secret key to someone on this list and then my newly compiled brmh-2.4.0 client will be able to connect to the metaserver servers? Also when I make documentation and/or source changes for brm-2.4.0 how do I get these uploaded to ftp.netrek.org? Also I found some documentation errors as well as defunct links for Vanilla and res-rsa stuff so how do I go about getting these changes uploaded as well? SDG, Zach __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ vanilla-devel mailing list vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel From vanillatrek at yahoo.com Mon Sep 15 05:54:42 2003 From: vanillatrek at yahoo.com (Zach) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:50:48 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] Re: [Vanilla List] BRMH - requesting new maintainership and res-rsa questions In-Reply-To: <20030915102015.851.qmail@web21108.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030915105442.11673.qmail@web21101.mail.yahoo.com> As a quick work around, to try and get the brmh client built at least, I ran: "./mkkey foo foo foo foo foo" in my res-rsa-2.9.3 directory and it seems to have worked as it generated the rsa_box* files. The problem I'm having when trying to compile brm-2.4.0 is that it doesn't seem to know where my RSA directory lives! The brm-2.4.0 INSTALL file merely says to: "Edit Netrek.tmpl, checking and/or setting CC, CDEBUGFLAGS, _RSA. If you want to use RSA, define MP_LIB (gnu MP) and MP_INCLUDE (gnu MP)." So I went to my Netrek.tmpl and saw it had section: #define RSA_ YES /* RSA */ I then changed the MP_LIB and MP_INCLUDE statements to point to where my gmp-4.1.2 lives: #if RSA_ /* RSA paths */ MP_LIB = -L../../res-rsa/res-rsa-2.9.2/gmp-4.1.2/ -lgmp -lmp MP_INCLUDE = -I../../res-rsa/res-rsa-2.9.2/gmp-4.1.2/ /* RSA boxes -- put here because the default # of boxes might change */ RSA_BOX_SRCS = rsa_box_0.c rsa_box_1.c rsa_box_2.c \ rsa_box_3.c rsa_box_4.c RSA_BOX_OBJS = rsa_box_0.o rsa_box_1.o rsa_box_2.o \ rsa_box_3.o rsa_box_4.o #endif /* _RSA_ */ However I see no place in this Netrek.tmpl file (Is this some autoconfig file or something standard for make? I never saw these .tmpl and .info files in a source tree before) for defining where RSA directory is and thus my mkkey program and rsa_box* files !!! So of when I run 'make depend' in brm-2.4.0 it says: gcc: rsa_box.c: No such file or directory gcc: rsa_box_0.c: No such file or directory gcc: rsa_box_1.c: No such file or directory gcc: rsa_box_2.c: No such file or directory gcc: rsa_box_3.c: No such file or directory gcc: rsa_box_4.c: No such file or directory And when I run 'make' the BRMH compile fails saying: make: *** No rule to make target `rsa_box.o', needed by `netrek'. Stop. So how exactly to I tell it where my RSA directory is? The documentation for building BRMH seems rather skimpy. And the RES-RSA documemtation also had some problems. Lack of proper documentation seems to be a theme with netrek heh. Any help greatly appreciated. SDG, Zach __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ vanilla-devel mailing list vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel From keyos at keyos.org Mon Sep 15 06:00:52 2003 From: keyos at keyos.org (Stas Pirogov) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:50:48 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] Re: [Vanilla List] BRMH - requesting new maintainership and res-rsa questions In-Reply-To: <20030915105442.11673.qmail@web21101.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030915105442.11673.qmail@web21101.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: rsa_box.* files should be copied to the directory where all sources are located. On Mon, 15 Sep 2003, Zach wrote: > Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 03:54:42 -0700 (PDT) > From: Zach > Reply-To: vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org > To: vanilla-list@us.netrek.org > Cc: vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org > Subject: [Vanilla Devel] Re: [Vanilla List] BRMH - requesting new > maintainership and res-rsa questions > > As a quick work around, to try and get the brmh client > built at least, I ran: "./mkkey foo foo foo foo foo" in my > res-rsa-2.9.3 directory and it seems to have worked as it > generated the rsa_box* files. > > The problem I'm having when trying to compile brm-2.4.0 is > that it doesn't seem to know where my RSA directory lives! > > The brm-2.4.0 INSTALL file merely says to: > "Edit Netrek.tmpl, checking and/or setting CC, CDEBUGFLAGS, > _RSA. If you want to use RSA, define MP_LIB (gnu MP) and > MP_INCLUDE (gnu MP)." > > So I went to my Netrek.tmpl and saw it had section: > > #define RSA_ YES /* RSA */ > > I then changed the MP_LIB and MP_INCLUDE statements to > point to where my gmp-4.1.2 lives: > > #if RSA_ > /* RSA paths */ > MP_LIB = > -L../../res-rsa/res-rsa-2.9.2/gmp-4.1.2/ -lgmp -lmp > MP_INCLUDE = > -I../../res-rsa/res-rsa-2.9.2/gmp-4.1.2/ > > /* RSA boxes -- put here because the default # of boxes > might change */ > > RSA_BOX_SRCS = rsa_box_0.c rsa_box_1.c rsa_box_2.c > \ > rsa_box_3.c rsa_box_4.c > RSA_BOX_OBJS = rsa_box_0.o rsa_box_1.o rsa_box_2.o > \ > rsa_box_3.o rsa_box_4.o > #endif /* _RSA_ */ > > However I see no place in this Netrek.tmpl file (Is this > some autoconfig file or something standard for make? I > never saw these .tmpl and .info files in a source tree > before) > for defining where RSA directory is and thus my mkkey > program and rsa_box* files !!! > > So of when I run 'make depend' in brm-2.4.0 it says: > gcc: rsa_box.c: No such file or directory > gcc: rsa_box_0.c: No such file or directory > gcc: rsa_box_1.c: No such file or directory > gcc: rsa_box_2.c: No such file or directory > gcc: rsa_box_3.c: No such file or directory > gcc: rsa_box_4.c: No such file or directory > > And when I run 'make' the BRMH compile fails saying: > make: *** No rule to make target `rsa_box.o', needed by > `netrek'. Stop. > > > So how exactly to I tell it where my RSA directory is? > The documentation for building BRMH seems rather skimpy. > And the RES-RSA documemtation also had some problems. Lack > of proper documentation seems to be a theme with netrek > heh. > > Any help greatly appreciated. > > SDG, > Zach > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > vanilla-devel mailing list > vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel > _______________________________________________ vanilla-devel mailing list vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel From vanillatrek at yahoo.com Mon Sep 15 08:23:35 2003 From: vanillatrek at yahoo.com (Zach) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:50:48 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] Re: [Vanilla List] BRMH - requesting new maintainership and res-rsa questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030915132335.42276.qmail@web21105.mail.yahoo.com> Shalom Stas! So the rsa_box.* files that have been generated by mkkey I must place in my brmh-2.4.0 source directory? After I put them there must I run "make depend" again before running the final "make" command? How do I get my key blessed to run on the metaserver public netrek servers? The client I compile will only run on my local machine until I get the client blessed right? And where/how do I submit client source/documentation changes? Also if I find errors in website files on vanilla.netrek.org or ftp.netrek.org how do I fix that and upload changes? SDG, Zach --- Stas Pirogov wrote: > rsa_box.* files should be copied > to the directory where all sources > are located. > > > On Mon, 15 Sep 2003, Zach wrote: > > > Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 03:54:42 -0700 (PDT) > > From: Zach > > Reply-To: vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org > > To: vanilla-list@us.netrek.org > > Cc: vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org > > Subject: [Vanilla Devel] Re: [Vanilla List] BRMH - > requesting new > > maintainership and res-rsa questions > > > > As a quick work around, to try and get the brmh client > > built at least, I ran: "./mkkey foo foo foo foo foo" in > my > > res-rsa-2.9.3 directory and it seems to have worked as > it > > generated the rsa_box* files. > > > > The problem I'm having when trying to compile brm-2.4.0 > is > > that it doesn't seem to know where my RSA directory > lives! > > > > The brm-2.4.0 INSTALL file merely says to: > > "Edit Netrek.tmpl, checking and/or setting CC, > CDEBUGFLAGS, > > _RSA. If you want to use RSA, define MP_LIB (gnu MP) > and > > MP_INCLUDE (gnu MP)." > > > > So I went to my Netrek.tmpl and saw it had section: > > > > #define RSA_ YES /* RSA */ > > > > I then changed the MP_LIB and MP_INCLUDE statements to > > point to where my gmp-4.1.2 lives: > > > > #if RSA_ > > /* RSA paths */ > > MP_LIB = > > -L../../res-rsa/res-rsa-2.9.2/gmp-4.1.2/ -lgmp -lmp > > MP_INCLUDE = > > -I../../res-rsa/res-rsa-2.9.2/gmp-4.1.2/ > > > > /* RSA boxes -- put here because the default # of boxes > > might change */ > > > > RSA_BOX_SRCS = rsa_box_0.c rsa_box_1.c > rsa_box_2.c > > \ > > rsa_box_3.c rsa_box_4.c > > RSA_BOX_OBJS = rsa_box_0.o rsa_box_1.o > rsa_box_2.o > > \ > > rsa_box_3.o rsa_box_4.o > > #endif /* _RSA_ */ > > > > However I see no place in this Netrek.tmpl file (Is > this > > some autoconfig file or something standard for make? I > > never saw these .tmpl and .info files in a source tree > > before) > > for defining where RSA directory is and thus my mkkey > > program and rsa_box* files !!! > > > > So of when I run 'make depend' in brm-2.4.0 it says: > > gcc: rsa_box.c: No such file or directory > > gcc: rsa_box_0.c: No such file or directory > > gcc: rsa_box_1.c: No such file or directory > > gcc: rsa_box_2.c: No such file or directory > > gcc: rsa_box_3.c: No such file or directory > > gcc: rsa_box_4.c: No such file or directory > > > > And when I run 'make' the BRMH compile fails saying: > > make: *** No rule to make target `rsa_box.o', needed by > > `netrek'. Stop. > > > > > > So how exactly to I tell it where my RSA directory is? > > The documentation for building BRMH seems rather > skimpy. > > And the RES-RSA documemtation also had some problems. > Lack > > of proper documentation seems to be a theme with netrek > > heh. > > > > Any help greatly appreciated. > > > > SDG, > > Zach > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design > software > > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > vanilla-devel mailing list > > vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org > > > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel > > > > _______________________________________________ > vanilla-devel mailing list > vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ vanilla-devel mailing list vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel From vanillatrek at yahoo.com Sat Sep 20 01:55:16 2003 From: vanillatrek at yahoo.com (Zach) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:50:48 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] Re: [Vanilla List] BRMH - requesting new maintainership and res-rsa questions In-Reply-To: <20030915132335.42276.qmail@web21105.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030920065516.56862.qmail@web21110.mail.yahoo.com> Well it looks like Stas and I are the only active ones on these 2 lists! Hmmm. Zach __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ vanilla-devel mailing list vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel From ant at solace.mh.se Sat Sep 20 13:39:36 2003 From: ant at solace.mh.se (Anthony Whitehead) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:50:48 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] Re: [Vanilla List] BRMH - requesting new maintainership and res-rsa questions In-Reply-To: <20030920065516.56862.qmail@web21110.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030920065516.56862.qmail@web21110.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200309202039.38255.ant@solace.mh.se> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 20 September 2003 08:55, Zach wrote: > Well it looks like Stas and I are the only active ones > on these 2 lists! Hmmm. I'm still about as well =) /Ant aka Night-time - -- /Anthony Whitehead Unix Sysadmin PGP Key: http://www.solace.mh.se/~ant/ant.pubkey - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/bJ7oj8xgYhljASoRAhscAJ9e32b1FwruN5df2OUg0lUvIMS0GgCgu5/4 YW4fIL3jeK5e4JexPWi9jSI= =sXIZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ vanilla-devel mailing list vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel From Shadow.Hunter at netrek.org Sat Sep 20 17:32:34 2003 From: Shadow.Hunter at netrek.org (E. Hietbrink) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:50:49 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] Re: [Vanilla List] BRMH - requesting new maintainership and res-rsa questions In-Reply-To: <200309202039.38255.ant@solace.mh.se> References: <20030920065516.56862.qmail@web21110.mail.yahoo.com> <200309202039.38255.ant@solace.mh.se> Message-ID: <3F6CD582.7070407@netrek.org> Anthony Whitehead wrote: > On Saturday 20 September 2003 08:55, Zach wrote: > >>Well it looks like Stas and I are the only active ones >>on these 2 lists! Hmmm. > > I'm still about as well =) > > /Ant > aka Night-time I'll jump on the bandwagon as well: me too ;-) Greetx, Erik (Shadow.Hunter@netrek.org) _______________________________________________ vanilla-devel mailing list vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel From msucka0xff at programmer.net Sun Sep 21 12:41:14 2003 From: msucka0xff at programmer.net (. .) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:50:49 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] Re: [Vanilla List] BRMH - requesting new maintainership and res-rsa questions Message-ID: <20030921174114.83780.qmail@mail.com> no no im following the discussion very closely too. truth of the matter is that mmkeys is not well documented. neither is the process of how to get you client blessed, or its interaction with clientkeys.netrek.org. these are all critically important pieces of the puzzle when trying to get your new clients on the public servers. from what i have gathered, the new keys that you generate needs to be sent to Dave Ahn, who then adds it to the list of good keys. to really understand i need to read the sources for the clients and servers, then research it on post posts (esp sheldon's except he posted so many articles hehe). -bd ----- Original Message ----- From: Anthony Whitehead Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 20:39:36 +0200 To: vanilla-list@us.netrek.org, vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org Subject: Re: [Vanilla Devel] Re: [Vanilla List] BRMH - requesting new maintainership and res-rsa questions > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Saturday 20 September 2003 08:55, Zach wrote: > > Well it looks like Stas and I are the only active ones > > on these 2 lists! Hmmm. > I'm still about as well =) > > /Ant > aka Night-time > > - -- > /Anthony Whitehead > Unix Sysadmin > PGP Key: http://www.solace.mh.se/~ant/ant.pubkey > - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQE/bJ7oj8xgYhljASoRAhscAJ9e32b1FwruN5df2OUg0lUvIMS0GgCgu5/4 > YW4fIL3jeK5e4JexPWi9jSI= > =sXIZ > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > _______________________________________________ > vanilla-devel mailing list > vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup CareerBuilder.com has over 400,000 jobs. Be smarter about your job search http://corp.mail.com/careers _______________________________________________ vanilla-devel mailing list vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel From vanillatrek at yahoo.com Mon Sep 22 07:48:06 2003 From: vanillatrek at yahoo.com (Zach) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:50:49 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] COW CVS login denied! In-Reply-To: <20030915132335.42276.qmail@web21105.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030922124806.85534.qmail@web21107.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, I am following the directions for CVS access at: http://cow.netrek.org yet it is not allowing me to access the /cvs dir: yoda@bach:~/netrek$ cvs -d :pserver:cow@cowsrc.netrek.org:/cvs login Logging in to :pserver:cow@cowsrc.netrek.org:2401/cvs CVS password: (per the website I enter 'cvs' as the password above) cvs login: authorization failed: server cowsrc.netrek.org rejected access to /cvs for user cow Regards, Zach __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ vanilla-devel mailing list vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel From vanilla-devel at us.netrek.org Wed Sep 24 04:14:04 2003 From: vanilla-devel at us.netrek.org (Vanilla CVS Development) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:50:49 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] CVS update: Vanilla/ntserv Message-ID: <200309240914.h8O9E4Q16102@swashbuckler.real-time.com> Date: Wednesday September 24, 2003 @ 4:14 Author: cameron Update of /home/netrek/cvsroot/Vanilla/ntserv In directory swashbuckler.real-time.com:/var/tmp/cvs-serv16099 Added Files: db.c Log Message: add missing file, even quozl can do it **************************************** _______________________________________________ vanilla-devel mailing list vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel From vanilla-devel at us.netrek.org Wed Sep 24 04:20:19 2003 From: vanilla-devel at us.netrek.org (Vanilla CVS Development) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:50:49 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] CVS update: Vanilla/ntserv Message-ID: <200309240920.h8O9KJI16113@swashbuckler.real-time.com> Date: Wednesday September 24, 2003 @ 4:20 Author: cameron Update of /home/netrek/cvsroot/Vanilla/ntserv In directory swashbuckler.real-time.com:/var/tmp/cvs-serv16110/ntserv Modified Files: Makefile.in Log Message: add db.c **************************************** Index: Vanilla/ntserv/Makefile.in diff -u Vanilla/ntserv/Makefile.in:1.4 Vanilla/ntserv/Makefile.in:1.5 --- Vanilla/ntserv/Makefile.in:1.4 Sat Aug 23 01:14:19 2003 +++ Vanilla/ntserv/Makefile.in Wed Sep 24 04:20:19 2003 @@ -15,7 +15,7 @@ # ntserv object files -R_OBJS = cluecheck.o coup.o data.o death.o detonate.o enter.o \ +R_OBJS = cluecheck.o coup.o data.o db.o death.o detonate.o enter.o \ findslot.o getentry.o getname.o salt.o getship.o input.o \ interface.o main.o orbit.o phaser.o plasma.o redraw.o \ reserved.o sintab.o socket.o genspkt.o smessage.o \ @@ -34,6 +34,7 @@ # Src files R_FILES = ${srcdir}/cluecheck.c ${srcdir}/coup.c ${srcdir}/data.c \ + ${srcdir}/db.c \ ${srcdir}/death.c ${srcdir}/detonate.c ${srcdir}/enter.c \ ${srcdir}/findslot.c ${srcdir}/getentry.c \ ${srcdir}/getname.c ${srcdir}/salt.c ${srcdir}/getship.c ${srcdir}/input.c \ _______________________________________________ vanilla-devel mailing list vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel From vanilla-devel at us.netrek.org Wed Sep 24 05:08:31 2003 From: vanilla-devel at us.netrek.org (Vanilla CVS Development) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:50:49 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] CVS update: Vanilla/robotd Message-ID: <200309241008.h8OA8Vb16153@swashbuckler.real-time.com> Date: Wednesday September 24, 2003 @ 5:08 Author: cameron Update of /home/netrek/cvsroot/Vanilla/robotd In directory swashbuckler.real-time.com:/var/tmp/cvs-serv16150 Modified Files: Makefile.in Log Message: fix install target failure due to DESTDIR not set **************************************** Index: Vanilla/robotd/Makefile.in diff -u Vanilla/robotd/Makefile.in:1.2 Vanilla/robotd/Makefile.in:1.3 --- Vanilla/robotd/Makefile.in:1.2 Mon Apr 30 04:34:36 2001 +++ Vanilla/robotd/Makefile.in Wed Sep 24 05:08:30 2003 @@ -4,6 +4,8 @@ VPATH = @srcdir@ srcdir = @srcdir@ +CONFIG = system.mk +include ../$(CONFIG) .PHONY: clean reallyclean install checkin checkout tar dist depend @@ -105,10 +107,9 @@ $(CC) $(CFLAGS) ${LDFLAGS} -o robot $(R_OBJS) $(INPUT) $(LIBS) $(EXTRALIBS) install: robot - -mkdir $(DESTDIR) - -mv $(DESTDIR)/robot $(DESTDIR)/robot.old - cp robot $(DESTDIR)/robot - if [ -d ${srcdir}/og -a `ls -a ${srcdir}/og | wc -l ` != 2 ]; then cp ${srcdir}/og/* $(DESTDIR); fi + -mkdir $(DESTDIR)$(LIBDIR) + cp robot $(DESTDIR)$(LIBDIR)/robot + if [ -d ${srcdir}/og -a `ls -a ${srcdir}/og | wc -l ` != 2 ]; then cp ${srcdir}/og/* $(DESTDIR)$(LIBDIR); fi _robot: $(R_OBJS) $(INPUT) _______________________________________________ vanilla-devel mailing list vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel From vanillatrek at yahoo.com Wed Sep 24 06:32:46 2003 From: vanillatrek at yahoo.com (Zach) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:50:49 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] client authentication problems (COW & BRMH) Message-ID: <20030924113246.82905.qmail@web21103.mail.yahoo.com> I've downloaded the latest COW client from CVS and the latest BRMH (2.4.0) client. Where do I get the blessed keyfiles for COW (CVW) and BRMH (2.4)? When I compile these clients it generates a new (obviously non-blessed) keyfile since it says no existing keyfile is found. The 2 linux precompiled binaries for brmh did not work so I have to compile the client myself to run it. Zach __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ vanilla-devel mailing list vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel From vanillatrek at yahoo.com Mon Sep 15 05:20:15 2003 From: vanillatrek at yahoo.com (Zach) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:49 2005 Subject: [Vanilla List] BRMH - requesting new maintainership and res-rsa questions In-Reply-To: <20030722232037.817.qmail@web21102.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030915102015.851.qmail@web21108.mail.yahoo.com> AFAIK Karth is no longer maintaing BRMH. There have been no source changes in 3.5 years (since 03/25/00) so unless anyone objects I'd like to take over maintaining this client. I have a few questions regarding RES-RSA: I downloaded rsares-rsa-2.9.2.tar.gz from ftp://ftp.netrek.org/pub/netrek/ The INSTALL file says to run './configure; make mkkey' to create the client key generator program. Ok first I had to hack the configure.in and run with: ./configure --with-gmp=./gmp-4.1.2 --libdir=/usr/local/lib --includedir=/usr/local/include to make it happy. Then it could said during configure: checking for mpz_fdiv_q_ui in -lgmp... no I don't know what version that funtion was for but it isn't used in gmp-4.1.2 Anyways the configure still completed fine. The INSTALL says to then run "make mkkey" but this is redundant since mkkey is generated by the ./configure script running. INSTALl then says: "Run the mkkey program in your client source directory with the appropriate arguments. It will create rsa_box*.c files and the RSA keypair needed to build an RSA-enabled client." That is all the documentation I could find with the res-rsa package. However the brmh-2.4.0 INSTALL file says: mkkey key_name client_type architecture/OS creator comments So I think it would be a good idea for this extra documentation to be merged into the res-rsa INSTALL file. Anyways I am a bit confused as to how I get the secret key that I've just created blessed? Do I send my secret key to someone on this list and then my newly compiled brmh-2.4.0 client will be able to connect to the metaserver servers? Also when I make documentation and/or source changes for brm-2.4.0 how do I get these uploaded to ftp.netrek.org? Also I found some documentation errors as well as defunct links for Vanilla and res-rsa stuff so how do I go about getting these changes uploaded as well? SDG, Zach __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ vanilla-list mailing list vanilla-list@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list From vanillatrek at yahoo.com Mon Sep 15 05:54:42 2003 From: vanillatrek at yahoo.com (Zach) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:49 2005 Subject: [Vanilla List] BRMH - requesting new maintainership and res-rsa questions In-Reply-To: <20030915102015.851.qmail@web21108.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030915105442.11673.qmail@web21101.mail.yahoo.com> As a quick work around, to try and get the brmh client built at least, I ran: "./mkkey foo foo foo foo foo" in my res-rsa-2.9.3 directory and it seems to have worked as it generated the rsa_box* files. The problem I'm having when trying to compile brm-2.4.0 is that it doesn't seem to know where my RSA directory lives! The brm-2.4.0 INSTALL file merely says to: "Edit Netrek.tmpl, checking and/or setting CC, CDEBUGFLAGS, _RSA. If you want to use RSA, define MP_LIB (gnu MP) and MP_INCLUDE (gnu MP)." So I went to my Netrek.tmpl and saw it had section: #define RSA_ YES /* RSA */ I then changed the MP_LIB and MP_INCLUDE statements to point to where my gmp-4.1.2 lives: #if RSA_ /* RSA paths */ MP_LIB = -L../../res-rsa/res-rsa-2.9.2/gmp-4.1.2/ -lgmp -lmp MP_INCLUDE = -I../../res-rsa/res-rsa-2.9.2/gmp-4.1.2/ /* RSA boxes -- put here because the default # of boxes might change */ RSA_BOX_SRCS = rsa_box_0.c rsa_box_1.c rsa_box_2.c \ rsa_box_3.c rsa_box_4.c RSA_BOX_OBJS = rsa_box_0.o rsa_box_1.o rsa_box_2.o \ rsa_box_3.o rsa_box_4.o #endif /* _RSA_ */ However I see no place in this Netrek.tmpl file (Is this some autoconfig file or something standard for make? I never saw these .tmpl and .info files in a source tree before) for defining where RSA directory is and thus my mkkey program and rsa_box* files !!! So of when I run 'make depend' in brm-2.4.0 it says: gcc: rsa_box.c: No such file or directory gcc: rsa_box_0.c: No such file or directory gcc: rsa_box_1.c: No such file or directory gcc: rsa_box_2.c: No such file or directory gcc: rsa_box_3.c: No such file or directory gcc: rsa_box_4.c: No such file or directory And when I run 'make' the BRMH compile fails saying: make: *** No rule to make target `rsa_box.o', needed by `netrek'. Stop. So how exactly to I tell it where my RSA directory is? The documentation for building BRMH seems rather skimpy. And the RES-RSA documemtation also had some problems. Lack of proper documentation seems to be a theme with netrek heh. Any help greatly appreciated. SDG, Zach __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ vanilla-list mailing list vanilla-list@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list From keyos at keyos.org Mon Sep 15 06:00:52 2003 From: keyos at keyos.org (Stas Pirogov) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:49 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] Re: [Vanilla List] BRMH - requesting new maintainership and res-rsa questions In-Reply-To: <20030915105442.11673.qmail@web21101.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030915105442.11673.qmail@web21101.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: rsa_box.* files should be copied to the directory where all sources are located. On Mon, 15 Sep 2003, Zach wrote: > Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 03:54:42 -0700 (PDT) > From: Zach > Reply-To: vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org > To: vanilla-list@us.netrek.org > Cc: vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org > Subject: [Vanilla Devel] Re: [Vanilla List] BRMH - requesting new > maintainership and res-rsa questions > > As a quick work around, to try and get the brmh client > built at least, I ran: "./mkkey foo foo foo foo foo" in my > res-rsa-2.9.3 directory and it seems to have worked as it > generated the rsa_box* files. > > The problem I'm having when trying to compile brm-2.4.0 is > that it doesn't seem to know where my RSA directory lives! > > The brm-2.4.0 INSTALL file merely says to: > "Edit Netrek.tmpl, checking and/or setting CC, CDEBUGFLAGS, > _RSA. If you want to use RSA, define MP_LIB (gnu MP) and > MP_INCLUDE (gnu MP)." > > So I went to my Netrek.tmpl and saw it had section: > > #define RSA_ YES /* RSA */ > > I then changed the MP_LIB and MP_INCLUDE statements to > point to where my gmp-4.1.2 lives: > > #if RSA_ > /* RSA paths */ > MP_LIB = > -L../../res-rsa/res-rsa-2.9.2/gmp-4.1.2/ -lgmp -lmp > MP_INCLUDE = > -I../../res-rsa/res-rsa-2.9.2/gmp-4.1.2/ > > /* RSA boxes -- put here because the default # of boxes > might change */ > > RSA_BOX_SRCS = rsa_box_0.c rsa_box_1.c rsa_box_2.c > \ > rsa_box_3.c rsa_box_4.c > RSA_BOX_OBJS = rsa_box_0.o rsa_box_1.o rsa_box_2.o > \ > rsa_box_3.o rsa_box_4.o > #endif /* _RSA_ */ > > However I see no place in this Netrek.tmpl file (Is this > some autoconfig file or something standard for make? I > never saw these .tmpl and .info files in a source tree > before) > for defining where RSA directory is and thus my mkkey > program and rsa_box* files !!! > > So of when I run 'make depend' in brm-2.4.0 it says: > gcc: rsa_box.c: No such file or directory > gcc: rsa_box_0.c: No such file or directory > gcc: rsa_box_1.c: No such file or directory > gcc: rsa_box_2.c: No such file or directory > gcc: rsa_box_3.c: No such file or directory > gcc: rsa_box_4.c: No such file or directory > > And when I run 'make' the BRMH compile fails saying: > make: *** No rule to make target `rsa_box.o', needed by > `netrek'. Stop. > > > So how exactly to I tell it where my RSA directory is? > The documentation for building BRMH seems rather skimpy. > And the RES-RSA documemtation also had some problems. Lack > of proper documentation seems to be a theme with netrek > heh. > > Any help greatly appreciated. > > SDG, > Zach > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > vanilla-devel mailing list > vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel > _______________________________________________ vanilla-list mailing list vanilla-list@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list From vanillatrek at yahoo.com Mon Sep 15 08:23:35 2003 From: vanillatrek at yahoo.com (Zach) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:50 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] Re: [Vanilla List] BRMH - requesting new maintainership and res-rsa questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030915132335.42276.qmail@web21105.mail.yahoo.com> Shalom Stas! So the rsa_box.* files that have been generated by mkkey I must place in my brmh-2.4.0 source directory? After I put them there must I run "make depend" again before running the final "make" command? How do I get my key blessed to run on the metaserver public netrek servers? The client I compile will only run on my local machine until I get the client blessed right? And where/how do I submit client source/documentation changes? Also if I find errors in website files on vanilla.netrek.org or ftp.netrek.org how do I fix that and upload changes? SDG, Zach --- Stas Pirogov wrote: > rsa_box.* files should be copied > to the directory where all sources > are located. > > > On Mon, 15 Sep 2003, Zach wrote: > > > Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 03:54:42 -0700 (PDT) > > From: Zach > > Reply-To: vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org > > To: vanilla-list@us.netrek.org > > Cc: vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org > > Subject: [Vanilla Devel] Re: [Vanilla List] BRMH - > requesting new > > maintainership and res-rsa questions > > > > As a quick work around, to try and get the brmh client > > built at least, I ran: "./mkkey foo foo foo foo foo" in > my > > res-rsa-2.9.3 directory and it seems to have worked as > it > > generated the rsa_box* files. > > > > The problem I'm having when trying to compile brm-2.4.0 > is > > that it doesn't seem to know where my RSA directory > lives! > > > > The brm-2.4.0 INSTALL file merely says to: > > "Edit Netrek.tmpl, checking and/or setting CC, > CDEBUGFLAGS, > > _RSA. If you want to use RSA, define MP_LIB (gnu MP) > and > > MP_INCLUDE (gnu MP)." > > > > So I went to my Netrek.tmpl and saw it had section: > > > > #define RSA_ YES /* RSA */ > > > > I then changed the MP_LIB and MP_INCLUDE statements to > > point to where my gmp-4.1.2 lives: > > > > #if RSA_ > > /* RSA paths */ > > MP_LIB = > > -L../../res-rsa/res-rsa-2.9.2/gmp-4.1.2/ -lgmp -lmp > > MP_INCLUDE = > > -I../../res-rsa/res-rsa-2.9.2/gmp-4.1.2/ > > > > /* RSA boxes -- put here because the default # of boxes > > might change */ > > > > RSA_BOX_SRCS = rsa_box_0.c rsa_box_1.c > rsa_box_2.c > > \ > > rsa_box_3.c rsa_box_4.c > > RSA_BOX_OBJS = rsa_box_0.o rsa_box_1.o > rsa_box_2.o > > \ > > rsa_box_3.o rsa_box_4.o > > #endif /* _RSA_ */ > > > > However I see no place in this Netrek.tmpl file (Is > this > > some autoconfig file or something standard for make? I > > never saw these .tmpl and .info files in a source tree > > before) > > for defining where RSA directory is and thus my mkkey > > program and rsa_box* files !!! > > > > So of when I run 'make depend' in brm-2.4.0 it says: > > gcc: rsa_box.c: No such file or directory > > gcc: rsa_box_0.c: No such file or directory > > gcc: rsa_box_1.c: No such file or directory > > gcc: rsa_box_2.c: No such file or directory > > gcc: rsa_box_3.c: No such file or directory > > gcc: rsa_box_4.c: No such file or directory > > > > And when I run 'make' the BRMH compile fails saying: > > make: *** No rule to make target `rsa_box.o', needed by > > `netrek'. Stop. > > > > > > So how exactly to I tell it where my RSA directory is? > > The documentation for building BRMH seems rather > skimpy. > > And the RES-RSA documemtation also had some problems. > Lack > > of proper documentation seems to be a theme with netrek > > heh. > > > > Any help greatly appreciated. > > > > SDG, > > Zach > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design > software > > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > vanilla-devel mailing list > > vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org > > > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel > > > > _______________________________________________ > vanilla-devel mailing list > vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ vanilla-list mailing list vanilla-list@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list From vanillatrek at yahoo.com Sat Sep 20 01:55:16 2003 From: vanillatrek at yahoo.com (Zach) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:50 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] Re: [Vanilla List] BRMH - requesting new maintainership and res-rsa questions In-Reply-To: <20030915132335.42276.qmail@web21105.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030920065516.56862.qmail@web21110.mail.yahoo.com> Well it looks like Stas and I are the only active ones on these 2 lists! Hmmm. Zach __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ vanilla-list mailing list vanilla-list@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list From quozl at us.netrek.org Sat Sep 20 02:03:41 2003 From: quozl at us.netrek.org (James Cameron) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:50 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] Re: [Vanilla List] BRMH - requesting new maintainership and res-rsa questions In-Reply-To: <20030920065516.56862.qmail@web21110.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030915132335.42276.qmail@web21105.mail.yahoo.com> <20030920065516.56862.qmail@web21110.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030920070341.GA20139@us.netrek.org> On Fri, Sep 19, 2003 at 11:55:16PM -0700, Zach wrote: > Well it looks like Stas and I are the only active ones > on these 2 lists! Hmmm. Just to prove you wrong. ;-) -- James Cameron mailto:quozl@us.netrek.org http://quozl.netrek.org/ _______________________________________________ vanilla-list mailing list vanilla-list@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list From swasey at cs.cmu.edu Sat Sep 20 10:17:15 2003 From: swasey at cs.cmu.edu (David Swasey) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:50 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] Re: [Vanilla List] BRMH - requesting new maintainership and res-rsa questions In-Reply-To: <20030920065516.56862.qmail@web21110.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4dbe3c588319ab610093b510ca3e7adb@cs.cmu.edu> I do not think changing brmh just so we can say it is actively maintained is a good idea. What problem are you trying to solve, Zach? -dave _______________________________________________ vanilla-list mailing list vanilla-list@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list From ant at solace.mh.se Sat Sep 20 13:39:36 2003 From: ant at solace.mh.se (Anthony Whitehead) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:50 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] Re: [Vanilla List] BRMH - requesting new maintainership and res-rsa questions In-Reply-To: <20030920065516.56862.qmail@web21110.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030920065516.56862.qmail@web21110.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200309202039.38255.ant@solace.mh.se> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 20 September 2003 08:55, Zach wrote: > Well it looks like Stas and I are the only active ones > on these 2 lists! Hmmm. I'm still about as well =) /Ant aka Night-time - -- /Anthony Whitehead Unix Sysadmin PGP Key: http://www.solace.mh.se/~ant/ant.pubkey - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/bJ7oj8xgYhljASoRAhscAJ9e32b1FwruN5df2OUg0lUvIMS0GgCgu5/4 YW4fIL3jeK5e4JexPWi9jSI= =sXIZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ vanilla-list mailing list vanilla-list@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list From Shadow.Hunter at netrek.org Sat Sep 20 17:32:34 2003 From: Shadow.Hunter at netrek.org (E. Hietbrink) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:50 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] Re: [Vanilla List] BRMH - requesting new maintainership and res-rsa questions In-Reply-To: <200309202039.38255.ant@solace.mh.se> References: <20030920065516.56862.qmail@web21110.mail.yahoo.com> <200309202039.38255.ant@solace.mh.se> Message-ID: <3F6CD582.7070407@netrek.org> Anthony Whitehead wrote: > On Saturday 20 September 2003 08:55, Zach wrote: > >>Well it looks like Stas and I are the only active ones >>on these 2 lists! Hmmm. > > I'm still about as well =) > > /Ant > aka Night-time I'll jump on the bandwagon as well: me too ;-) Greetx, Erik (Shadow.Hunter@netrek.org) _______________________________________________ vanilla-list mailing list vanilla-list@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list From vanillatrek at yahoo.com Sun Sep 21 04:21:39 2003 From: vanillatrek at yahoo.com (Zach) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:50 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] Re: [Vanilla List] BRMH - requesting new maintainership and res-rsa questions In-Reply-To: <20030920070341.GA20139@us.netrek.org> Message-ID: <20030921092139.70857.qmail@web21105.mail.yahoo.com> Heh ok. touchee :) I just read in "Linux User & Developer" that IBM and HP had Linux sales over $2 billion (USD) last year! Just got CDs for Morphix, Knoppix, EnGarde Secure Linux Community Edition 2.0 and damnsmallLinux 0.3.10 businesscard ISO :) Zach --- James Cameron wrote: > On Fri, Sep 19, 2003 at 11:55:16PM -0700, Zach wrote: > > Well it looks like Stas and I are the only active ones > > on these 2 lists! Hmmm. > > Just to prove you wrong. ;-) > > -- > James Cameron mailto:quozl@us.netrek.org > http://quozl.netrek.org/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ vanilla-list mailing list vanilla-list@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list From vanillatrek at yahoo.com Sun Sep 21 04:23:53 2003 From: vanillatrek at yahoo.com (Zach) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:50 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] Re: [Vanilla List] BRMH - requesting new maintainership and res-rsa questions In-Reply-To: <4dbe3c588319ab610093b510ca3e7adb@cs.cmu.edu> Message-ID: <20030921092353.15468.qmail@web21106.mail.yahoo.com> Well I wanted to update the documentation and play around with the code a bit. It hasn't been touched in 2.5 years. Also what is the process to get changes made to www.netrek.org content? It hasn't been updated in years as well. Gamers are savvy, when they see the main site for a game isn't even getting regular updates it doesn't leave a very good impression IUKWIM. :) Zach --- David Swasey wrote: > I do not think changing brmh just so we can say it is > actively > maintained is a good idea. What problem are you trying > to solve, > Zach? > > -dave > > > _______________________________________________ > vanilla-list mailing list > vanilla-list@us.netrek.org > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ vanilla-list mailing list vanilla-list@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list From vanillatrek at yahoo.com Sun Sep 21 04:25:35 2003 From: vanillatrek at yahoo.com (Zach) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:50 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] Re: [Vanilla List] BRMH - requesting new maintainership and res-rsa questions In-Reply-To: <200309202039.38255.ant@solace.mh.se> Message-ID: <20030921092535.71269.qmail@web21105.mail.yahoo.com> hey there! do u still trek? how is life in Sweden these days? saw u guys just rejected the Euro. Good on ya :) zach --- Anthony Whitehead wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Saturday 20 September 2003 08:55, Zach wrote: > > Well it looks like Stas and I are the only active ones > > on these 2 lists! Hmmm. > I'm still about as well =) > > /Ant > aka Night-time > > - -- > /Anthony Whitehead > Unix Sysadmin > PGP Key: http://www.solace.mh.se/~ant/ant.pubkey > - > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQE/bJ7oj8xgYhljASoRAhscAJ9e32b1FwruN5df2OUg0lUvIMS0GgCgu5/4 > YW4fIL3jeK5e4JexPWi9jSI= > =sXIZ > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > _______________________________________________ > vanilla-list mailing list > vanilla-list@us.netrek.org > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ vanilla-list mailing list vanilla-list@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list From swasey at cs.cmu.edu Sun Sep 21 09:26:18 2003 From: swasey at cs.cmu.edu (David Swasey) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:50 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] Re: [Vanilla List] BRMH - requesting new maintainership and res-rsa questions In-Reply-To: <20030921092353.15468.qmail@web21106.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9f57d4e6d44f238c5fbbd05a0b95a8b7@cs.cmu.edu> Updating the documentation would be great. So the code has not been touched in 2.5 years? What is wrong with it? Regarding netrek.org content, you could try sending diffs/new files to Dave Ahn via email. -dave _______________________________________________ vanilla-list mailing list vanilla-list@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list From msucka0xff at programmer.net Sun Sep 21 12:41:14 2003 From: msucka0xff at programmer.net (. .) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:50 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] Re: [Vanilla List] BRMH - requesting new maintainership and res-rsa questions Message-ID: <20030921174114.83780.qmail@mail.com> no no im following the discussion very closely too. truth of the matter is that mmkeys is not well documented. neither is the process of how to get you client blessed, or its interaction with clientkeys.netrek.org. these are all critically important pieces of the puzzle when trying to get your new clients on the public servers. from what i have gathered, the new keys that you generate needs to be sent to Dave Ahn, who then adds it to the list of good keys. to really understand i need to read the sources for the clients and servers, then research it on post posts (esp sheldon's except he posted so many articles hehe). -bd ----- Original Message ----- From: Anthony Whitehead Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 20:39:36 +0200 To: vanilla-list@us.netrek.org, vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org Subject: Re: [Vanilla Devel] Re: [Vanilla List] BRMH - requesting new maintainership and res-rsa questions > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Saturday 20 September 2003 08:55, Zach wrote: > > Well it looks like Stas and I are the only active ones > > on these 2 lists! Hmmm. > I'm still about as well =) > > /Ant > aka Night-time > > - -- > /Anthony Whitehead > Unix Sysadmin > PGP Key: http://www.solace.mh.se/~ant/ant.pubkey > - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQE/bJ7oj8xgYhljASoRAhscAJ9e32b1FwruN5df2OUg0lUvIMS0GgCgu5/4 > YW4fIL3jeK5e4JexPWi9jSI= > =sXIZ > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > _______________________________________________ > vanilla-devel mailing list > vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup CareerBuilder.com has over 400,000 jobs. Be smarter about your job search http://corp.mail.com/careers _______________________________________________ vanilla-list mailing list vanilla-list@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list From vanillatrek at yahoo.com Mon Sep 22 00:17:31 2003 From: vanillatrek at yahoo.com (Zach) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:50 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] Re: [Vanilla List] BRMH - requesting new maintainership and res-rsa questions In-Reply-To: <9f57d4e6d44f238c5fbbd05a0b95a8b7@cs.cmu.edu> Message-ID: <20030922051731.54274.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com> --- David Swasey wrote: > Updating the documentation would be great. Thanks. > So the code has not been touched in 2.5 years? Yep. > What is wrong with it? Well nothing major AFAIK but there may be some mods worth doing. > Regarding netrek.org content, you could try sending > diffs/new files to > Dave Ahn via email. Ok. So he's still active? I haven't seen him play in a game since early 2001 :) Zach __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ vanilla-list mailing list vanilla-list@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list From vanillatrek at yahoo.com Mon Sep 22 07:48:06 2003 From: vanillatrek at yahoo.com (Zach) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:50 2005 Subject: [Vanilla List] COW CVS login denied! In-Reply-To: <20030915132335.42276.qmail@web21105.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030922124806.85534.qmail@web21107.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, I am following the directions for CVS access at: http://cow.netrek.org yet it is not allowing me to access the /cvs dir: yoda@bach:~/netrek$ cvs -d :pserver:cow@cowsrc.netrek.org:/cvs login Logging in to :pserver:cow@cowsrc.netrek.org:2401/cvs CVS password: (per the website I enter 'cvs' as the password above) cvs login: authorization failed: server cowsrc.netrek.org rejected access to /cvs for user cow Regards, Zach __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ vanilla-list mailing list vanilla-list@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list From ahn at orion.netrek.org Mon Sep 22 10:23:35 2003 From: ahn at orion.netrek.org (Dave Ahn) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:50 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] Re: [Vanilla List] BRMH - requesting new maintainership and res-rsa questions In-Reply-To: <20030921174114.83780.qmail@mail.com> References: <20030921174114.83780.qmail@mail.com> Message-ID: <20030922152335.GA11669@orion.netrek.org> I'm still alive, lurking once in a while. On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 12:41:14PM -0500, . . wrote: > no no im following the discussion very closely too. truth of the matter is that mmkeys is not well documented. neither is the process of how to get you client blessed, or its interaction with clientkeys.netrek.org. these are all critically important pieces of the puzzle when trying to get your new clients on the public servers. from what i have gathered, the new keys that you generate needs to be sent to Dave Ahn, who then adds it to the list of good keys. to really understand i need to read the sources for the clients and servers, then research it on post posts (esp sheldon's except he posted so many articles hehe). > -bd > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Anthony Whitehead > Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 20:39:36 +0200 > To: vanilla-list@us.netrek.org, vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org > Subject: Re: [Vanilla Devel] Re: [Vanilla List] BRMH - requesting new maintainership and res-rsa questions > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On Saturday 20 September 2003 08:55, Zach wrote: > > > Well it looks like Stas and I are the only active ones > > > on these 2 lists! Hmmm. > > I'm still about as well =) > > > > /Ant > > aka Night-time > > > > - -- > > /Anthony Whitehead > > Unix Sysadmin > > PGP Key: http://www.solace.mh.se/~ant/ant.pubkey > > - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) > > > > iD8DBQE/bJ7oj8xgYhljASoRAhscAJ9e32b1FwruN5df2OUg0lUvIMS0GgCgu5/4 > > YW4fIL3jeK5e4JexPWi9jSI= > > =sXIZ > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > vanilla-devel mailing list > > vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org > > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel > > -- > __________________________________________________________ > Sign-up for your own personalized E-mail at Mail.com > http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup > > CareerBuilder.com has over 400,000 jobs. Be smarter about your job search > http://corp.mail.com/careers > > > _______________________________________________ > vanilla-list mailing list > vanilla-list@us.netrek.org > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list _______________________________________________ vanilla-list mailing list vanilla-list@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list From mark at mark.mielke.cc Mon Sep 22 11:26:24 2003 From: mark at mark.mielke.cc (Mark Mielke) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:50 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] Re: [Vanilla List] BRMH - requesting new maintainership and res-rsa questions In-Reply-To: <20030922152335.GA11669@orion.netrek.org> References: <20030921174114.83780.qmail@mail.com> <20030922152335.GA11669@orion.netrek.org> Message-ID: <20030922162624.GA9420@mark.mielke.cc> Another lurker... :-) No time to play lately, though... mark -- mark@mielke.cc/markm@ncf.ca/markm@nortelnetworks.com __________________________ . . _ ._ . . .__ . . ._. .__ . . . .__ | Neighbourhood Coder |\/| |_| |_| |/ |_ |\/| | |_ | |/ |_ | | | | | | \ | \ |__ . | | .|. |__ |__ | \ |__ | Ottawa, Ontario, Canada One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them, one ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them... http://mark.mielke.cc/ _______________________________________________ vanilla-list mailing list vanilla-list@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list From quozl at us.netrek.org Mon Sep 22 19:04:34 2003 From: quozl at us.netrek.org (James Cameron) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:50 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] Re: [Vanilla List] BRMH - requesting new maintainership and res-rsa questions In-Reply-To: <20030922051731.54274.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com> References: <9f57d4e6d44f238c5fbbd05a0b95a8b7@cs.cmu.edu> <20030922051731.54274.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030923000434.GA5071@us.netrek.org> On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 10:17:31PM -0700, Zach wrote: > --- David Swasey wrote: > > So the code has not been touched in 2.5 years? > Yep. Cool. Stable. > > What is wrong with it? > Well nothing major AFAIK but there may be some mods worth > doing. But I thought BRMH was the fundamentalist client that people chose if they did not want modifications? COW is the feature rich client. -- James Cameron mailto:quozl@us.netrek.org http://quozl.netrek.org/ _______________________________________________ vanilla-list mailing list vanilla-list@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list From quozl at us.netrek.org Mon Sep 22 19:08:20 2003 From: quozl at us.netrek.org (James Cameron) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:51 2005 Subject: [Vanilla List] Re: [Vanilla Devel] COW CVS login denied! In-Reply-To: <20030922124806.85534.qmail@web21107.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030915132335.42276.qmail@web21105.mail.yahoo.com> <20030922124806.85534.qmail@web21107.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030923000820.GB5071@us.netrek.org> On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 05:48:06AM -0700, Zach wrote: > I am following the directions for CVS access at: > http://cow.netrek.org yet it is not allowing me to access > the /cvs dir: > yoda@bach:~/netrek$ cvs -d > :pserver:cow@cowsrc.netrek.org:/cvs login > Logging in to :pserver:cow@cowsrc.netrek.org:2401/cvs > CVS password: > cvs login: authorization failed: server cowsrc.netrek.org > rejected access to /cvs for user cow Firstly, this is not the appropriate mailing list. Use the vanilla-clients mailing list for client side problems. ;-) This is where COW's response e-mail address is directed, and where Kurt lurks, I think. Secondly, the information in CVS itself on how to access CVS is not consistent with the instructions you read at cow.netrek.org. I'll attach the README.CVS file. -- James Cameron mailto:quozl@us.netrek.org http://quozl.netrek.org/ -------------- next part -------------- The whole COW source is source-controlled with CVS under sourceforge.net Server is: cowsrc.netrek.org CVS path: /cvsroot/netrek CVS module: cow For web access use: http://sourceforge.net/project/?group_id=968 To get the COW source now from the CVS tree set the CVSROOT variable to :pserver:anonymous@cowsrc.netrek.org:/cvsroot/netrek Login on the server with no password: cvs login and checkout the whole COW src tree with: cvs -z3 co cow All COW developers should get a login at sourceforge.net and send the ID to 007@netrek.org so that it can be added. Developer be careful read/write access is only available over SSH with export CVS_RSH=ssh cvs -z3 -ddevelopername@cowsrc.netrek.org:/cvsroot/netrek co modulename Note: commits are best done on individual files since many files include a $Log: README.CVS,v $ include a Revision 1.6 2002/06/21 00:57:46 quozl include a review of sdl branch merge made difficult by commit include a logs embedded in some source files, discussed with include a bob, decided we hadn't said anywhere that individual include a commits are preferred. include a of commit comments. From xyzzy at speakeasy.org Mon Sep 22 19:52:02 2003 From: xyzzy at speakeasy.org (Trent Piepho) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:51 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] Re: [Vanilla List] BRMH - requesting new maintainership and res-rsa questions In-Reply-To: <20030923000434.GA5071@us.netrek.org> Message-ID: On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, James Cameron wrote: > > Well nothing major AFAIK but there may be some mods worth > > doing. > > But I thought BRMH was the fundamentalist client that people chose if > they did not want modifications? COW is the feature rich client. I think BRMH has some bugs wrt maxplayers being increased to 32. _______________________________________________ vanilla-list mailing list vanilla-list@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list From doosh at inl.org Mon Sep 22 20:25:05 2003 From: doosh at inl.org (Tom Holub) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:51 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] Re: [Vanilla List] BRMH - requesting new maintainership and res-rsa questions In-Reply-To: ; from xyzzy@speakeasy.org on Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 05:52:02PM -0700 References: <20030923000434.GA5071@us.netrek.org> Message-ID: <20030922182505.A81976@inl.org> On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 05:52:02PM -0700, Trent Piepho wrote: > On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, James Cameron wrote: > > > Well nothing major AFAIK but there may be some mods worth > > > doing. > > > > But I thought BRMH was the fundamentalist client that people chose if > > they did not want modifications? COW is the feature rich client. > > I think BRMH has some bugs wrt maxplayers being increased to 32. Not the version updated in 2001. -Tom _______________________________________________ vanilla-list mailing list vanilla-list@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list From vanillatrek at yahoo.com Tue Sep 23 03:51:13 2003 From: vanillatrek at yahoo.com (Zach) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:51 2005 Subject: [Vanilla List] Re: [Vanilla Devel] COW CVS login denied! In-Reply-To: <20030923000820.GB5071@us.netrek.org> Message-ID: <20030923085113.35304.qmail@web21108.mail.yahoo.com> Ok. Thanks. Looks like someone must update the info at http://cow.netrek.org to reflect the correct way to download COW via CVS. IIRC Dave Ahn is in charge of making content changes to the *netrek.org websites. Zach --- James Cameron wrote: > On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 05:48:06AM -0700, Zach wrote: > > I am following the directions for CVS access at: > > http://cow.netrek.org yet it is not allowing me to > access > > the /cvs dir: > > yoda@bach:~/netrek$ cvs -d > > :pserver:cow@cowsrc.netrek.org:/cvs login > > Logging in to :pserver:cow@cowsrc.netrek.org:2401/cvs > > CVS password: > > cvs login: authorization failed: server > cowsrc.netrek.org > > rejected access to /cvs for user cow > > Firstly, this is not the appropriate mailing list. Use > the > vanilla-clients mailing list for client side problems. > ;-) > This is where COW's response e-mail address is directed, > and where > Kurt lurks, I think. > > Secondly, the information in CVS itself on how to access > CVS > is not consistent with the instructions you read at > cow.netrek.org. > > I'll attach the README.CVS file. > > -- > James Cameron mailto:quozl@us.netrek.org > http://quozl.netrek.org/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ vanilla-list mailing list vanilla-list@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list From xyzzy at speakeasy.org Tue Sep 23 07:36:55 2003 From: xyzzy at speakeasy.org (Trent Piepho) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:51 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] Re: [Vanilla List] BRMH - requesting new maintainership and res-rsa questions In-Reply-To: <20030922182505.A81976@inl.org> Message-ID: On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, Tom Holub wrote: > On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 05:52:02PM -0700, Trent Piepho wrote: > > On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, James Cameron wrote: > > > > Well nothing major AFAIK but there may be some mods worth > > > > doing. > > > > > > But I thought BRMH was the fundamentalist client that people chose if > > > they did not want modifications? COW is the feature rich client. > > > > I think BRMH has some bugs wrt maxplayers being increased to 32. > > Not the version updated in 2001. Can you ignore player t? What happens when you team has 10 observers? I thought it scrolled the other team off the player list. _______________________________________________ vanilla-list mailing list vanilla-list@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list From vanillatrek at yahoo.com Tue Sep 23 08:14:26 2003 From: vanillatrek at yahoo.com (Zach) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:51 2005 Subject: [Vanilla List] Re: [Vanilla Devel] COW CVS login denied! In-Reply-To: <39ea41a1e926853860ef3f246202e9f8@cs.cmu.edu> Message-ID: <20030923131426.82625.qmail@web21108.mail.yahoo.com> Ok :) BTW I have found numerous errors (defunct links, outdated info etc.) on the netrek.org website. Would it be possible to allow me to make changes myself directly? Zach --- David Swasey wrote: > I suggest you send him a diff or a new version of the > page. > That way, he does not have to spend too much time > maintaining > pages for a game he rarely plays. :) > > -dave > > > Ok. Thanks. Looks like someone must update the info at > > http://cow.netrek.org to reflect the correct way to > > download COW via CVS. IIRC Dave Ahn is in charge of > making > > content changes to the *netrek.org websites. > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ vanilla-list mailing list vanilla-list@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list From vanillatrek at yahoo.com Tue Sep 23 08:19:31 2003 From: vanillatrek at yahoo.com (Zach) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:51 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] Re: [Vanilla List] BRMH - requesting new maintainership and res-rsa questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030923131931.43790.qmail@web21106.mail.yahoo.com> One has to press shift-a (A) to send message to ALL board yet BRMH and Steve's Netrek2000 client (not sure about COW) allow you to send to TEAM board by only pressing t. I think the clients should be changed to require shift-t to send to TEAM board. This is also good pedagogy to have consistency across clients on this fundamental messaging mechanism. Thus one would be allowed to ignore slot t. Also has anyone decided what is a good limit for the # of observers? I was thinking about dedicating a seperate window to observers or allow the client to toggle all the observers off of the playerlist. WDYT? Zach --- Trent Piepho wrote: > On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, Tom Holub wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 05:52:02PM -0700, Trent Piepho > wrote: > > > On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, James Cameron wrote: > > > > > Well nothing major AFAIK but there may be some > mods worth > > > > > doing. > > > > > > > > But I thought BRMH was the fundamentalist client > that people chose if > > > > they did not want modifications? COW is the > feature rich client. > > > > > > I think BRMH has some bugs wrt maxplayers being > increased to 32. > > > > Not the version updated in 2001. > > Can you ignore player t? > > What happens when you team has 10 observers? I thought > it scrolled the > other team off the player list. > > > _______________________________________________ > vanilla-list mailing list > vanilla-list@us.netrek.org > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ vanilla-list mailing list vanilla-list@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list From swasey at cs.cmu.edu Tue Sep 23 08:53:48 2003 From: swasey at cs.cmu.edu (David Swasey) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:51 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] Re: [Vanilla List] BRMH - requesting new maintainership and res-rsa questions In-Reply-To: <20030923131931.43790.qmail@web21106.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I think you should not change t for team. If you really care about slot t, then make it shift-T. The extra keystroke does matter and messages to the team are more important. I do not care what you do to the player list as long as its optional so I can turn it off. Maybe you should focus on ripping out misfeatures rather than adding more. It would be nice to simplify the UI and code rather than complicate them. Maybe you should hack COW. Maybe I should shut up. :) -dave _______________________________________________ vanilla-list mailing list vanilla-list@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list From mark at mark.mielke.cc Tue Sep 23 10:45:16 2003 From: mark at mark.mielke.cc (Mark Mielke) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:51 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] Re: [Vanilla List] BRMH - requesting new maintainership and res-rsa questions In-Reply-To: References: <20030923131931.43790.qmail@web21106.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030923154516.GA19322@mark.mielke.cc> On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 09:53:48AM -0400, David Swasey wrote: > I think you should not change t for team. If you really care about > slot t, then make it shift-T. The extra keystroke does matter and > messages to the team are more important. Or... make it an option. I always wondering why the inconsistency was there... 'R'omulan, 'F'ed, ..., 't'eam... Personally, I would configure t = player t. mark -- mark@mielke.cc/markm@ncf.ca/markm@nortelnetworks.com __________________________ . . _ ._ . . .__ . . ._. .__ . . . .__ | Neighbourhood Coder |\/| |_| |_| |/ |_ |\/| | |_ | |/ |_ | | | | | | \ | \ |__ . | | .|. |__ |__ | \ |__ | Ottawa, Ontario, Canada One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them, one ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them... http://mark.mielke.cc/ _______________________________________________ vanilla-list mailing list vanilla-list@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list From doosh at inl.org Tue Sep 23 11:35:46 2003 From: doosh at inl.org (Tom Holub) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:51 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] Re: [Vanilla List] BRMH - requesting new maintainership and res-rsa questions In-Reply-To: ; from xyzzy@speakeasy.org on Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 05:36:55AM -0700 References: <20030922182505.A81976@inl.org> Message-ID: <20030923093546.A79308@inl.org> On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 05:36:55AM -0700, Trent Piepho wrote: > On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, Tom Holub wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 05:52:02PM -0700, Trent Piepho wrote: > > > On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, James Cameron wrote: > > > > > Well nothing major AFAIK but there may be some mods worth > > > > > doing. > > > > > > > > But I thought BRMH was the fundamentalist client that people chose if > > > > they did not want modifications? COW is the feature rich client. > > > > > > I think BRMH has some bugs wrt maxplayers being increased to 32. > > > > Not the version updated in 2001. > > Can you ignore player t? No. > What happens when you team has 10 observers? I thought it scrolled the > other team off the player list. Not on my screen; perhaps with default window sizes. -Tom _______________________________________________ vanilla-list mailing list vanilla-list@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list From vanillatrek at yahoo.com Tue Sep 23 12:36:50 2003 From: vanillatrek at yahoo.com (Zach) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:52 2005 Subject: [Vanilla List] Vanilla compile problems Message-ID: <20030923173650.78444.qmail@web21104.mail.yahoo.com> Hi I'm trying to compile the latest Vanilla. First problem I ran into was that gcc didn't like the use of so i had to change that to in robotd/util.c, robots/inlcomm.c, robotd/util.c, sequencer/roboshar.c, tools/html.c, & tools/text.c After making that hack I was able to get the compile to proceed but then I ran into another fatal make error: make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/yoda/netrek/Vanilla/keycomp' cd sequencer; make depend make[2]: Entering directory `/home/yoda/netrek/Vanilla/sequencer' gcc -M -g -O2 -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include ./roboshar.c ./sequencer.c ./../ntserv/commands.c ./../ntserv/data.c ./../ntserv/openmem.c ./../ntserv/smessage.c ./../ntserv/slotmaint.c > .depend roboshar.c:114:18: macro "va_start" requires 2 arguments, but only 1 given roboshar.c:149:18: macro "va_start" requires 2 arguments, but only 1 given make[2]: *** [depend] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/yoda/netrek/Vanilla/sequencer' make[1]: *** [depend] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/yoda/netrek/Vanilla' make: *** [null] Error 2 I see this has been a problem in the past. From the ChangeLog: Mon Aug 16 14:15:44 1999 Dave Ahn * BUGFIX pledit/main.c: Pledit was still using varargs instead of stdargs, causing problems at compile or run time depending on platform. Any ideas how to resolve this? I have attached my config.log I also had to hack system.mk to use: LIBCURSES = -lcurses For some reason configure.in was not passing this. I was a bit puzzled also why ./configure complained: checking for newwin in -lncurses... (cached) no checking for newwin in -lcurses... (cached) no yet I have curses.h and ncurses.h installed in my system. I'm running Linux kernel 2.2.18pre21 with the Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 distribution. Regards, Zach __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: config.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 3550 bytes Desc: config.log Url : http://shadowknight.real-time.com/pipermail/netrek-dev/attachments/20030923/4ced99ba/config.obj From vanillatrek at yahoo.com Tue Sep 23 12:40:39 2003 From: vanillatrek at yahoo.com (Zach) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:52 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] Re: [Vanilla List] BRMH - requesting new maintainership and res-rsa questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030923174039.7439.qmail@web21106.mail.yahoo.com> --- David Swasey wrote: > I think you should not change t for team. If you really > care about slot t, then make it shift-T. The extra keystroke does > matter and messages to the team are more important. Ok that sounds sensible. > I do not care what you do to the player list as long as > its optional so I can turn it off. Nod. > Maybe you should focus on ripping out misfeatures rather > than adding more. It would be nice to simplify the UI and code Did you have any specific ideas regarding simplification of the UI? > rather than complicate them. Maybe you should hack COW. Maybe > I should shut up. > :) :-P Your feedback is most welcome. Zach __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ vanilla-list mailing list vanilla-list@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list From vanillatrek at yahoo.com Tue Sep 23 12:43:07 2003 From: vanillatrek at yahoo.com (Zach) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:52 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] Re: [Vanilla List] BRMH - requesting new maintainership and res-rsa questions In-Reply-To: <20030923154516.GA19322@mark.mielke.cc> Message-ID: <20030923174307.33776.qmail@web21105.mail.yahoo.com> --- Mark Mielke wrote: > > Or... make it an option. I always wondering why the > inconsistency was there... 'R'omulan, 'F'ed, ..., 't'eam... > > Personally, I would configure t = player t. That's what I was thinking but after reflecting on Dave's post I think the 't' for team is there because the team board is the most essential message board and has highest priority (certainly much higher than observer t) and it facilitates team communication more readily by players not having to add an extra keystroke (Shift) to send messages to their team board. Zach __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ vanilla-list mailing list vanilla-list@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list From keyos at keyos.org Tue Sep 23 12:40:57 2003 From: keyos at keyos.org (Stas Pirogov) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:52 2005 Subject: [Vanilla List] Vanilla compile problems In-Reply-To: <20030923173650.78444.qmail@web21104.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030923173650.78444.qmail@web21104.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Well, apparently your solution of first problem created second one ;) There are two different versions of va_start (and all other va_* functions). The first set accepts one argument and the second two, so by switching varargs with stdarg you told gcc to use different set. Get it back and post what error do you receive with original version Stas. On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, Zach wrote: > Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 10:36:50 -0700 (PDT) > From: Zach > Reply-To: vanilla-list@us.netrek.org > To: vanilla-list@us.netrek.org > Cc: quozl@us.netrek.org > Subject: [Vanilla List] Vanilla compile problems > > Hi I'm trying to compile the latest Vanilla. > > First problem I ran into was that gcc didn't like the use > of so i had to change that to in > robotd/util.c, robots/inlcomm.c, robotd/util.c, > sequencer/roboshar.c, tools/html.c, & tools/text.c > > After making that hack I was able to get the compile to > proceed but then I ran into another fatal make error: > > make[2]: Leaving directory > `/home/yoda/netrek/Vanilla/keycomp' > cd sequencer; make depend > make[2]: Entering directory > `/home/yoda/netrek/Vanilla/sequencer' > gcc -M -g -O2 -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include > ./roboshar.c ./sequencer.c ./../ntserv/commands.c > ./../ntserv/data.c ./../ntserv/openmem.c > ./../ntserv/smessage.c ./../ntserv/slotmaint.c > .depend > roboshar.c:114:18: macro "va_start" requires 2 arguments, > but only 1 given > roboshar.c:149:18: macro "va_start" requires 2 arguments, > but only 1 given > make[2]: *** [depend] Error 1 > make[2]: Leaving directory > `/home/yoda/netrek/Vanilla/sequencer' > make[1]: *** [depend] Error 2 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/yoda/netrek/Vanilla' > make: *** [null] Error 2 > > I see this has been a problem in the past. From the > ChangeLog: > Mon Aug 16 14:15:44 1999 Dave Ahn > > * BUGFIX pledit/main.c: Pledit was still using varargs > instead of > stdargs, causing problems at compile or run time depending > on > platform. > > Any ideas how to resolve this? I have attached my > config.log > I also had to hack system.mk to use: LIBCURSES = -lcurses > For some reason configure.in was not passing this. I was a > bit puzzled also why ./configure complained: > > checking for newwin in -lncurses... (cached) no > checking for newwin in -lcurses... (cached) no > > yet I have curses.h and ncurses.h installed in my system. > > I'm running Linux kernel 2.2.18pre21 with the Debian > GNU/Linux 3.0 distribution. > > Regards, > Zach > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ vanilla-list mailing list vanilla-list@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list From quozl at us.netrek.org Tue Sep 23 19:36:54 2003 From: quozl at us.netrek.org (James Cameron) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:53 2005 Subject: [Vanilla List] Re: Vanilla compile problems In-Reply-To: <20030923173650.78444.qmail@web21104.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030923173650.78444.qmail@web21104.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030924003654.GB32667@us.netrek.org> Your change to avoid varargs.h was incomplete; va_start left in the code shows you haven't made the appropriate changes. Workaround is to use gcc-2.95, which is probably on your system. For example, on my Knoppix CD with built-in Netrek client and practice (newbie) server, the Debian package Makefile builds Vanilla like this; export CC="ccache gcc-2.95";cd upstream/$(VANILLA);./configure --prefix= $(LIBDIR)/server;make Dave Ahn's previous fix to pledit/main.c probably doesn't relate, as the problem you have is caused by gcc-3.3 dropping support for varargs. On the lack of ncurses detect in configure, I see that the result is cached. Remove config.cache and re-run configure. > I'm running Linux kernel 2.2.18pre21 with the Debian > GNU/Linux 3.0 distribution. That hasn't been released yet, as I understand. -- James Cameron mailto:quozl@us.netrek.org http://quozl.netrek.org/ _______________________________________________ vanilla-list mailing list vanilla-list@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list From quozl at us.netrek.org Tue Sep 23 19:41:26 2003 From: quozl at us.netrek.org (James Cameron) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:53 2005 Subject: [Vanilla List] Re: [Vanilla Devel] COW CVS login denied! In-Reply-To: <20030923131426.82625.qmail@web21108.mail.yahoo.com> References: <39ea41a1e926853860ef3f246202e9f8@cs.cmu.edu> <20030923131426.82625.qmail@web21108.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030924004126.GC32667@us.netrek.org> On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 06:14:26AM -0700, Zach wrote: > Ok :) BTW I have found numerous errors (defunct links, > outdated info etc.) on the netrek.org website. Would it be > possible to allow me to make changes myself directly? Generate the changes as diffs against the HTML and send them to Dave Ahn, and until he responds don't lose them. We're waiting for Dave Ahn to get the time to set up the capability for many of us to update the content. Dave knows I'd prefer a Wiki. ;-) In the meanwhile, I point my new contacts to netrek.hwy.com.au, even though it is almost a year out of date. -- James Cameron mailto:quozl@us.netrek.org http://quozl.netrek.org/ _______________________________________________ vanilla-list mailing list vanilla-list@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list From vanillatrek at yahoo.com Wed Sep 24 02:15:41 2003 From: vanillatrek at yahoo.com (Zach) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:53 2005 Subject: [Vanilla List] Re: Vanilla compile problems In-Reply-To: <20030924003654.GB32667@us.netrek.org> Message-ID: <20030924071541.79887.qmail@web21105.mail.yahoo.com> --- James Cameron wrote: > Your change to avoid varargs.h was incomplete; va_start > left in the code shows you haven't made the appropriate changes. Doh! :) > Workaround is to use gcc-2.95, which is probably on your > system. Ok. I just pointed my symlink temporarily: gcc->gcc-2.95 About to recompile now. > For example, on my Knoppix CD with built-in Netrek client > and practice > (newbie) server, the Debian package Makefile builds > Vanilla like this;> > export CC="ccache gcc-2.95";cd > upstream/$(VANILLA);./configure --prefix= > $(LIBDIR)/server;make Cool but what is this 'ccache'? Never saw that before is that a Knoppix program? > Dave Ahn's previous fix to pledit/main.c probably doesn't > relate, as the problem you have is caused by gcc-3.3 dropping > support for varargs. Oh right now I recall you mentioning to me about possibly looking into fixing Vanilla to compile with gcc-3.3 I'll look into that. > On the lack of ncurses detect in configure, I see that > the result is cached. Remove config.cache and re-run configure. Ok. > > I'm running Linux kernel 2.2.18pre21 with the Debian > > GNU/Linux 3.0 distribution. > > That hasn't been released yet, as I understand. Correct. I am using the unstable version. Zach __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ vanilla-list mailing list vanilla-list@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list From vanillatrek at yahoo.com Wed Sep 24 02:17:18 2003 From: vanillatrek at yahoo.com (Zach) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:53 2005 Subject: [Vanilla List] Re: [Vanilla Devel] COW CVS login denied! In-Reply-To: <20030924004126.GC32667@us.netrek.org> Message-ID: <20030924071718.94503.qmail@web21101.mail.yahoo.com> --- James Cameron wrote: > Generate the changes as diffs against the HTML and send > them to Dave Ahn, and until he responds don't lose them. Ok. > We're waiting for Dave Ahn to get the time to set up the > capability for many of us to update the content. > > Dave knows I'd prefer a Wiki. ;-) Cool! > In the meanwhile, I point my new contacts to > netrek.hwy.com.au, even though it is almost a year out of date. Heh. Zach __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ vanilla-list mailing list vanilla-list@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list From vanillatrek at yahoo.com Wed Sep 24 02:37:57 2003 From: vanillatrek at yahoo.com (Zach) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:53 2005 Subject: [Vanilla List] new Vanilla compile error Message-ID: <20030924073757.97025.qmail@web21107.mail.yahoo.com> Ok I am using fresh sources of latest Vanilla from CVS and compiling with gcc-2.95 and getting lots of undefined reference errors in for ntsev functions: make[1]: Entering directory `/home/yoda/netrek/Vanilla/ntserv' gcc -g -O2 -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -c -o cluecheck.o cluecheck.c gcc -g -O2 -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -c -o coup.o coup.c gcc -g -O2 -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -c -o data.o data.c gcc -g -O2 -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -c -o death.o death.c gcc -g -O2 -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -c -o detonate.o detonate.c gcc -g -O2 -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -c -o enter.o enter.c gcc -g -O2 -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -c -o findslot.o findslot.c gcc -g -O2 -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -c -o getentry.o getentry.c gcc -g -O2 -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -c -o getname.o getname.c gcc -g -O2 -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -c -o salt.o salt.c gcc -g -O2 -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -c -o getship.o getship.c gcc -g -O2 -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -c -o input.o input.c gcc -g -O2 -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -c -o interface.o interface.c gcc -g -O2 -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -c -o main.o main.c gcc -g -O2 -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -c -o orbit.o orbit.c gcc -g -O2 -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -c -o phaser.o phaser.c gcc -g -O2 -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -c -o plasma.o plasma.c gcc -g -O2 -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -c -o redraw.o redraw.c gcc -g -O2 -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -c -o reserved.o reserved.c gcc -g -O2 -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -c -o sintab.o sintab.c gcc -g -O2 -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -c -o socket.o socket.c gcc -g -O2 -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -c -o genspkt.o genspkt.c gcc -g -O2 -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -c -o smessage.o smessage.c gcc -g -O2 -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -c -o startrobot.o startrobot.c gcc -g -O2 -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -c -o sysdefaults.o sysdefaults.c gcc -g -O2 -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -c -o timecheck.o timecheck.c gcc -g -O2 -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -c -o torp.o torp.c gcc -g -O2 -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -c -o util.o util.c gcc -g -O2 -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -c -o warning.o warning.c gcc -g -O2 -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -c -o ping.o ping.c gcc -g -O2 -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -c -o getpath.o getpath.c gcc -g -O2 -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -c -o features.o features.c gcc -g -O2 -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -c -o distress.o distress.c gcc -g -O2 -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -c -o transwarp.o transwarp.c gcc -g -O2 -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -c -o gencmds.o gencmds.c gcc -g -O2 -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -c -o ntscmds.o ntscmds.c gcc -g -O2 -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -c -o openmem.o openmem.c gcc -g -O2 -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -c -o feature.o feature.c gcc -g -O2 -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -c -o queue.o queue.c gcc -g -O2 -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -c -o slotmaint.o slotmaint.c gcc -g -O2 -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -c -o rsa_key.o rsa_key.c gcc -g -O2 -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -c -o ltd_stats.o ltd_stats.c gcc -g -O2 -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -o ntserv cluecheck.o coup.o data.o death.o detonate.o enter.o findslot.o getentry.o getname.o salt.o getship.o input.o interface.o main.o orbit.o phaser.o plasma.o redraw.o reserved.o sintab.o socket.o genspkt.o smessage.o startrobot.o sysdefaults.o timecheck.o torp.o util.o warning.o ping.o getpath.o features.o distress.o transwarp.o gencmds.o ntscmds.o openmem.o feature.o queue.o slotmaint.o rsa_key.o ltd_stats.o -lnsl -lm -lcrypt death.o(.text+0x567): In function `death': /home/yoda/netrek/Vanilla/ntserv/death.c:142: undefined reference to `savestats' getname.o(.text+0x1eb): In function `handleLogin': /home/yoda/netrek/Vanilla/ntserv/getname.c:136: undefined reference to `findplayer' getname.o(.text+0x2cc):/home/yoda/netrek/Vanilla/ntserv/getname.c:186: undefined reference to `newplayer' getname.o(.text+0x43d):/home/yoda/netrek/Vanilla/ntserv/getname.c:216: undefined reference to `savepass' main.o(.text+0xac2): In function `exitGame': /home/yoda/netrek/Vanilla/ntserv/main.c:439: undefined reference to `savestats' ntscmds.o(.text+0x1446): In function `do_password': /home/yoda/netrek/Vanilla/ntserv/ntscmds.c:1167: undefined reference to `changepassword' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[1]: *** [ntserv] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/yoda/netrek/Vanilla/ntserv' make: *** [server] Error 2 config.log and system.mk are attached Any ideas? 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Greatily speeds packaging and builds, once you have done it more than once. -- James Cameron mailto:quozl@us.netrek.org http://quozl.netrek.org/ _______________________________________________ vanilla-list mailing list vanilla-list@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list From vanillatrek at yahoo.com Wed Sep 24 04:01:21 2003 From: vanillatrek at yahoo.com (Zach) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:53 2005 Subject: [Vanilla List] new Vanilla compile error In-Reply-To: <20030924073757.97025.qmail@web21107.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030924090121.355.qmail@web21110.mail.yahoo.com> --- Zach wrote: > Ok I am using fresh sources of latest Vanilla from CVS > and compiling with gcc-2.95 and getting lots of undefined > reference errors in for ntsev functions: > > death.o(.text+0x567): In function `death': > /home/yoda/netrek/Vanilla/ntserv/death.c:142: undefined > reference to `savestats' I looked at one of these errors: ntserv/death.c has include statement for ../include/proto.h where savestats() is defined so I don't see why it's saying it is undefined ! ??? 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SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ vanilla-list mailing list vanilla-list@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list From quozl at us.netrek.org Wed Sep 24 04:49:24 2003 From: quozl at us.netrek.org (James Cameron) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:53 2005 Subject: [Vanilla List] Re: new Vanilla compile error In-Reply-To: <20030924073757.97025.qmail@web21107.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030924073757.97025.qmail@web21107.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030924094924.GG32667@us.netrek.org> On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 12:37:57AM -0700, Zach wrote: > gcc -g -O2 -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -o > ntserv cluecheck.o coup.o data.o death.o detonate.o > enter.o findslot.o getentry.o getname.o salt.o getship.o > input.o interface.o main.o orbit.o phaser.o plasma.o > redraw.o reserved.o sintab.o socket.o genspkt.o > smessage.o startrobot.o sysdefaults.o timecheck.o torp.o > util.o warning.o ping.o getpath.o features.o distress.o > transwarp.o gencmds.o ntscmds.o openmem.o feature.o queue.o > slotmaint.o rsa_key.o ltd_stats.o -lnsl -lm -lcrypt > death.o(.text+0x567): In function `death': > /home/yoda/netrek/Vanilla/ntserv/death.c:142: undefined > reference to `savestats' > getname.o(.text+0x1eb): In function `handleLogin': > /home/yoda/netrek/Vanilla/ntserv/getname.c:136: undefined > reference to `findplayer' > getname.o(.text+0x2cc):/home/yoda/netrek/Vanilla/ntserv/getname.c:186: > undefined reference to `newplayer' > getname.o(.text+0x43d):/home/yoda/netrek/Vanilla/ntserv/getname.c:216: > undefined reference to `savepass' > main.o(.text+0xac2): In function `exitGame': > /home/yoda/netrek/Vanilla/ntserv/main.c:439: undefined > reference to `savestats' > ntscmds.o(.text+0x1446): In function `do_password': > /home/yoda/netrek/Vanilla/ntserv/ntscmds.c:1167: undefined > reference to `changepassword' > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status > make[1]: *** [ntserv] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory > `/home/yoda/netrek/Vanilla/ntserv' > make: *** [server] Error 2 Now it's my turn for failing to commit a new file to CVS. ntserv/db.c is where the player database functions have moved to. I've committed the changes now. -- James Cameron mailto:quozl@us.netrek.org http://quozl.netrek.org/ _______________________________________________ vanilla-list mailing list vanilla-list@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list From quozl at us.netrek.org Wed Sep 24 06:03:19 2003 From: quozl at us.netrek.org (James Cameron) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:53 2005 Subject: [Vanilla List] new Vanilla compile error In-Reply-To: <20030924090121.355.qmail@web21110.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030924073757.97025.qmail@web21107.mail.yahoo.com> <20030924090121.355.qmail@web21110.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030924110319.GH32667@us.netrek.org> On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 02:01:21AM -0700, Zach wrote: > --- Zach wrote: > > Ok I am using fresh sources of latest Vanilla from CVS > > and compiling with gcc-2.95 and getting lots of undefined > > reference errors in for ntsev functions: > > > > death.o(.text+0x567): In function `death': > > /home/yoda/netrek/Vanilla/ntserv/death.c:142: undefined > > reference to `savestats' > > I looked at one of these errors: ntserv/death.c has include > statement for ../include/proto.h where savestats() is > defined so I don't see why it's saying it is undefined ! > ??? No, proto.h contains not a definition, but a prototype. The definition was in ntserv/db.c -- James Cameron mailto:quozl@us.netrek.org http://quozl.netrek.org/ _______________________________________________ vanilla-list mailing list vanilla-list@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list From vanillatrek at yahoo.com Wed Sep 24 06:32:46 2003 From: vanillatrek at yahoo.com (Zach) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:53 2005 Subject: [Vanilla List] client authentication problems (COW & BRMH) Message-ID: <20030924113246.82905.qmail@web21103.mail.yahoo.com> I've downloaded the latest COW client from CVS and the latest BRMH (2.4.0) client. Where do I get the blessed keyfiles for COW (CVW) and BRMH (2.4)? When I compile these clients it generates a new (obviously non-blessed) keyfile since it says no existing keyfile is found. The 2 linux precompiled binaries for brmh did not work so I have to compile the client myself to run it. Zach __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ vanilla-list mailing list vanilla-list@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list From quozl at us.netrek.org Wed Sep 24 06:51:44 2003 From: quozl at us.netrek.org (James Cameron) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:53 2005 Subject: [Vanilla List] Re: [Netrek Clients] client authentication problems (COW & BRMH) In-Reply-To: <20030924113246.82905.qmail@web21103.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030924113246.82905.qmail@web21103.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030924115144.GI32667@us.netrek.org> On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 04:32:46AM -0700, Zach wrote: > I've downloaded the latest COW client from CVS and the > latest BRMH (2.4.0) client. Doesn't tell me really what you downloaded, though I presume with the CVS you fetched the HEAD vesrions of each element in the repository. > Where do I get the blessed keyfiles for COW (CVW) and BRMH > (2.4)? The question doesn't make sense to me. What makes you think you need them? What are they, do you think? > When I compile these clients it generates a new (obviously > non-blessed) keyfile since it says no existing keyfile is > found. Good, it's working fine. > The 2 linux precompiled binaries for brmh did not work so I > have to compile the client myself to run it. Why did they not work? Presumably it is something wrong with your system? The conclusion doesn't follow from the evidence. I don't really know what you are trying to achieve. -- James Cameron mailto:quozl@us.netrek.org http://quozl.netrek.org/ _______________________________________________ vanilla-list mailing list vanilla-list@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list