From David.Watson at team17.com Mon Aug 2 05:04:50 2004 From: David.Watson at team17.com (David Watson) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:02 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] cvs status on cvs.us.netrek.org 2401 Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20040802110347.04a24210@mailgate.team17.com> I seem unable to connect. Is there a problem at the server end? Dave _______________________________________________ vanilla-devel mailing list vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel From keyos at keyos.org Mon Aug 2 05:13:51 2004 From: keyos at keyos.org (Stas Pirogov) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:02 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] cvs status on cvs.us.netrek.org 2401 In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20040802110347.04a24210@mailgate.team17.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20040802110347.04a24210@mailgate.team17.com> Message-ID: I couldn't connect around two weeks ago as well. Seems something is down there. Stas. On Mon, 2 Aug 2004, David Watson wrote: > Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2004 11:04:50 +0100 > From: David Watson > Reply-To: Vanilla Netrek Development Mailing List > > To: vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org > Subject: [Vanilla Devel] cvs status on cvs.us.netrek.org 2401 > > > I seem unable to connect. Is there a problem at the server end? > > > Dave > > > _______________________________________________ > vanilla-devel mailing list > vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel > _______________________________________________ vanilla-devel mailing list vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel From quozl at us.netrek.org Mon Aug 2 18:22:06 2004 From: quozl at us.netrek.org (James Cameron) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:03 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] cvs status on cvs.us.netrek.org 2401 In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.0.9.0.20040802110347.04a24210@mailgate.team17.com> Message-ID: <20040802232206.GA639@us.netrek.org> Skipped content of type multipart/signed-------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ vanilla-devel mailing list vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel From basic at us.netrek.org Mon Aug 2 22:16:01 2004 From: basic at us.netrek.org (Bob Tanner) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:03 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] cvs status on cvs.us.netrek.org 2401 In-Reply-To: <20040802232206.GA639@us.netrek.org> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20040802110347.04a24210@mailgate.team17.com> <20040802232206.GA639@us.netrek.org> Message-ID: <200408022216.07578.basic@us.netrek.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 02 August 2004 06:22 pm, James Cameron wrote: > I agree, I cannot connect either. It's monitored 24x7, no pages, I'll check it when I have secure access to the box. - -- Bob Tanner Key fingerprint = AB15 0BDF BCDE 4369 5B42 1973 7CF1 A709 2CC1 B288 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBDwN2fPGnCSzBsogRAiyLAKCK0k5ZZY6S6dF6PBsjyieXWFheKwCgk+qS /QJidzZkfLc2Z9ed10PK0pM= =l+Zf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ vanilla-devel mailing list vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel From basic at us.netrek.org Thu Aug 5 15:56:31 2004 From: basic at us.netrek.org (Bob Tanner) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:03 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] cvs status on cvs.us.netrek.org 2401 In-Reply-To: <200408022216.07578.basic@us.netrek.org> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20040802110347.04a24210@mailgate.team17.com> <20040802232206.GA639@us.netrek.org> <200408022216.07578.basic@us.netrek.org> Message-ID: <200408051556.34961.basic@us.netrek.org> On Monday 02 August 2004 10:16 pm, Bob Tanner wrote: > On Monday 02 August 2004 06:22 pm, James Cameron wrote: > > I agree, I cannot connect either. > > It's monitored 24x7, no pages, I'll check it when I have secure access to > the box. Dead stick of RAM. New ordered over night. Should be back up over the weekend. -- Bob Tanner Key fingerprint = AB15 0BDF BCDE 4369 5B42 1973 7CF1 A709 2CC1 B288 _______________________________________________ vanilla-devel mailing list vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel From vanillatrek at yahoo.com Sat Aug 7 14:35:01 2004 From: vanillatrek at yahoo.com (Zach) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:03 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] cvs status on cvs.us.netrek.org 2401 In-Reply-To: <200408051556.34961.basic@us.netrek.org> Message-ID: <20040807193501.67724.qmail@web21124.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Bob, For my future reference I'm curious as to how I can determine that RAM is dead. Did you get an OS error indicating that some things were not loading into memory? Is there a tool one can use to test the RAM chips? Zach --- Bob Tanner wrote: > On Monday 02 August 2004 10:16 pm, Bob Tanner wrote: > > On Monday 02 August 2004 06:22 pm, James Cameron wrote: > > > I agree, I cannot connect either. > > > > It's monitored 24x7, no pages, I'll check it when I > have secure access to > > the box. > > Dead stick of RAM. > > New ordered over night. Should be back up over the > weekend. > > -- > Bob Tanner > Key fingerprint = AB15 0BDF BCDE 4369 5B42 1973 7CF1 > A709 2CC1 B288 > > _______________________________________________ > vanilla-devel mailing list > vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo _______________________________________________ vanilla-devel mailing list vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel From quozl at us.netrek.org Sun Aug 8 04:31:00 2004 From: quozl at us.netrek.org (James Cameron) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:03 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] cvs status on cvs.us.netrek.org 2401 In-Reply-To: <20040807193501.67724.qmail@web21124.mail.yahoo.com> References: <200408051556.34961.basic@us.netrek.org> <20040807193501.67724.qmail@web21124.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040808093100.GB16377@us.netrek.org> Zach, There is hardware that will test the RAM on BIOS and identify which stick is broken. memtest, on Knoppix CDs, and as a Debian package, can test RAM but usually cannot identify which stick. Some hardware even has ECC and detection circuitry that will log the event to a small processor on the system board. Examining the event log can show the fault. This hardware is generally more expensive than consumer hardware. I've no idea what Bob is using. It's not that important exactly what he is using, but at least I've explained some of the options. -- James Cameron mailto:quozl@us.netrek.org http://quozl.netrek.org/ _______________________________________________ vanilla-devel mailing list vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel From vanillatrek at yahoo.com Mon Aug 9 15:43:34 2004 From: vanillatrek at yahoo.com (Zach) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:03 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] cvs status on cvs.us.netrek.org 2401 In-Reply-To: <20040808093100.GB16377@us.netrek.org> Message-ID: <20040809204334.49301.qmail@web21127.mail.yahoo.com> --- James Cameron wrote: > > Zach, > > There is hardware that will test the RAM on BIOS and > identify which > stick is broken. > > memtest, on Knoppix CDs, and as a Debian package, can > test RAM but > usually cannot identify which stick. > > Some hardware even has ECC and detection circuitry that > will log the > event to a small processor on the system board. > Examining the event log > can show the fault. This hardware is generally more > expensive than > consumer hardware. > > I've no idea what Bob is using. It's not that important > exactly what he > is using, but at least I've explained some of the > options. G'day James, I see. Thanks for the elucidation. Do you have any options for determining whether a mother board has gone bad or whether it is certain card(s) or both? On my first computer about 12 months after I had it one day I powered it on but no boot noises or anything showed up on the monitor. So I took it to a shop and he said the mother board apparently short circuited and took out the RAM/video card/sound card along with it! I wish I had a way to verify this before paying for a new mboard/RAM/video/sound. I suppose one card could short circuit for various reasons (over heating, dust, humidity) and and this could over-load the motherboard and take out additional cards or is it more likely something happened to the mother board (I had computer plugged into surge suppressor strip but I realize this is not same as UPS with voltage high/low protection) and it caused the other things to fail? Anything I can buy at Radio Shack to do the testing myself? Are there any How-To guides on using such equipment as a voltmeter? Another time my monitor refused to come on so just when I was about ready to get rid of it I let the computer sit idle for a week unplugged and next time I pressed the monitor power button it worked! But subsequently I discovered the monitor would only power on if i booted with it powered off and then powered it on during a certain point in the boot cycle! Wish I could figure out this one. Zach > > -- > James Cameron mailto:quozl@us.netrek.org > http://quozl.netrek.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > vanilla-devel mailing list > vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail _______________________________________________ vanilla-devel mailing list vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel From quozl at us.netrek.org Tue Aug 10 06:07:53 2004 From: quozl at us.netrek.org (James Cameron) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:03 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] cvs status on cvs.us.netrek.org 2401 In-Reply-To: <20040809204334.49301.qmail@web21127.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040808093100.GB16377@us.netrek.org> <20040809204334.49301.qmail@web21127.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040810110753.GA23450@us.netrek.org> Kinda off-topic. On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 01:43:34PM -0700, Zach wrote: > I see. Thanks for the elucidation. Do you have any options > for determining whether a mother board has gone bad or > whether it is certain card(s) or both? Yes. Just like in a bicycle or car, substitute components until the fault is found. Uses Scientific Method. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method I rant more on this below. > On my first computer about 12 months after I had it one day I powered > it on but no boot noises or anything showed up on the monitor. So I > took it to a shop and he said the mother board apparently short > circuited and took out the RAM/video card/sound card along with it! I cannot vouch for the accuracy of this diagnosis, because I'm not in front of the equipment concerned. I can say that computer shops have a vested interest in finding severe faults. Get a second opinion; even pay for a second opinion, in labor cost with a contract term that says they will *NOT* get the business to fix it. Tell them *why* you are asking for that, but do *NOT* tell them the shop you used before. I've been the second opinion consultant for about five dead systems out here in the outback. I haven't charged for this service (conflict of interest with HP), but I have learned from it. The farmers out here are about an hour or two's drive to the nearest computer shop. In one case, a "won't start up" 64Mb computer was taken in on the morning and left at the shop for analysis and quotation. This was prepaid at $AUD 70. When the owner returned around lunch time, the shop said "new motherboard required, $AUD 800". They'd even taken it apart to determine this, and it was in pieces on the bench. They were ready to start. The owner refused to believe it, and asked for the system to be reassembled so they could get a second opinion. The shop complied. The owner then drove home. (Remember, in the outback, it could be weeks before they can get to town again). When I got to analyse the system, with the owner present, I found the following; - mismatched RAM, some 4Mb SIMMs, one was physically damaged (missing pull-up resistor), definitely did not add up to anything like 64Mb, - drive connectors not properly inserted, obviously a rush job reassembling, - lithium clock battery showed 1.1V instead of 3.6V. So I pulled out the bad RAM, changed the clock battery, fixed the drive connectors, and the system worked fine. I concluded that the original fault was a flat battery, and that the shop technicians had not figured this out in time. Owner took it back to the shop on the next trip and demanded their money and RAM back. Shop apologised and gave them the RAM; which they had found left over on their bench. (The shop has since given *me* excellent service, by the way, so I feel it was an isolated incident). How you can learn to do the same? I'm not really sure what to recommend. It's systematic diagnosis, based on understanding what each component does and what it's limits are. In my software support job at HP, I have to use this all the time, but ask me to point a finger at where I learned it, or how to learn it yourself, and you've got me stumped. It's too entrenched. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engineering might help. The systematic diagnosis is a form of reverse engineering; we use engineering principles to determine how a system *should* work, and then build up a mental model, then test the model scientifically against the reality of the failed system. If necessary, we construct a description of the problem and the tests that were carried out, just so we can be methodical about how to solve the fault. In supporting something that another part of the same organisation produced, the situation can be easier ... because we have access to test plans and procedures designed by the engineering team. That's why supporting Linux is so much easier ... we all have the source. Never too old to preach. -- James Cameron mailto:quozl@us.netrek.org http://quozl.netrek.org/ _______________________________________________ vanilla-devel mailing list vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel From antivirus at nextron.ch Sat Aug 14 09:36:09 2004 From: antivirus at nextron.ch (antivirus@nextron.ch) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:03 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] Content violation Message-ID: <200408141636734.SM03048@mailavgw.nextron.ch> Content violation found in email message. From: vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org To: info@spitexbl.ch File(s): your_document.pif Matching filename: *.pif _______________________________________________ vanilla-devel mailing list vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel From msucka0xff at programmer.net Sat Aug 14 20:23:58 2004 From: msucka0xff at programmer.net (. .) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:03 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] cvs status on cvs.us.netrek.org 2401 Message-ID: <20040815012358.276C6164002@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: Zach Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2004 13:43:34 -0700 (PDT) To: Vanilla Netrek Development Mailing List Subject: Re: [Vanilla Devel] cvs status on cvs.us.netrek.org 2401 Zach, you gotta get yourself some more buddies to look at your stuff. that way they can help you sort it out. two or more heads looking at the same problem are better than one! find a local computer enthusiast group near you and take your cpu over there. -bd -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm _______________________________________________ vanilla-devel mailing list vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel From vanillatrek at yahoo.com Mon Aug 16 18:20:00 2004 From: vanillatrek at yahoo.com (Zach) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:03 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] cvs status on cvs.us.netrek.org 2401 In-Reply-To: <20040815012358.276C6164002@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <20040816232000.46321.qmail@web21126.mail.yahoo.com> --- ". ." wrote: > Zach, you gotta get yourself some more buddies to look at > your stuff. that way they can help you sort it out. two > or more heads looking at the same problem are better than > one! find a local computer enthusiast group near you and > take your cpu over there. > -bd Hi Jay, Ok I hope to get involved in the PLUG soon as I get a laptop. How is the OBSTrek dev. going? Will you be allowed to run it on continuum/pickled? Zach __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail _______________________________________________ vanilla-devel mailing list vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel From msucka0xff at programmer.net Tue Aug 17 13:40:48 2004 From: msucka0xff at programmer.net (msucka0xff@programmer.net) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:03 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] cvs status on cvs.us.netrek.org 2401 Message-ID: <20040817184048.B7F541F50B2@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> completing the final touches on overthrowing rsa ;-) but shhh dont tell ----- Original Message ----- From: Zach Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 16:20:00 -0700 (PDT) To: Vanilla Netrek Development Mailing List Subject: Re: [Vanilla Devel] cvs status on cvs.us.netrek.org 2401 > --- ". ." wrote: > > Zach, you gotta get yourself some more buddies to look at > > your stuff. that way they can help you sort it out. two > > or more heads looking at the same problem are better than > > one! find a local computer enthusiast group near you and > > take your cpu over there. > > -bd > > Hi Jay, > > Ok I hope to get involved in the PLUG soon as I get a > laptop. How is the OBSTrek dev. going? Will you be allowed > to run it on continuum/pickled? > > Zach > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > _______________________________________________ > vanilla-devel mailing list > vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm _______________________________________________ vanilla-devel mailing list vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel From quozl at us.netrek.org Tue Aug 17 21:02:09 2004 From: quozl at us.netrek.org (James Cameron) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:03 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] cvs status on cvs.us.netrek.org 2401 In-Reply-To: <20040816232000.46321.qmail@web21126.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040815012358.276C6164002@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> <20040816232000.46321.qmail@web21126.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040818020209.GC10786@us.netrek.org> On Mon, Aug 16, 2004 at 04:20:00PM -0700, Zach wrote: > Ok I hope to get involved in the PLUG soon as I get a laptop. There's no reason to wait. You don't need to have a computer to be in a LUG, and the people in the LUG can be of great help in selecting a computer. -- James Cameron mailto:quozl@us.netrek.org http://quozl.netrek.org/ _______________________________________________ vanilla-devel mailing list vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel From msucka0xff at programmer.net Wed Aug 18 00:32:11 2004 From: msucka0xff at programmer.net (. .) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:03 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] cvs status on cvs.us.netrek.org 2401 Message-ID: <20040818053211.4A4AF101D8@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> oh goodie, i replied to the stupid mailing list that was really lame damn it zach it's your fault ;-) -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm _______________________________________________ vanilla-devel mailing list vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel From vanillatrek at yahoo.com Wed Aug 18 07:59:14 2004 From: vanillatrek at yahoo.com (Zach) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:03 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] cvs status on cvs.us.netrek.org 2401 In-Reply-To: <20040818053211.4A4AF101D8@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <20040818125914.19487.qmail@web21123.mail.yahoo.com> --- ". ." wrote: > > oh goodie, i replied to the stupid mailing list > > that was really lame > > damn it zach it's your fault ;-) heh :D i saw ~10 ppl on #netrek last night but all but 3 were idle and you logged off before i had chance to see your msgs to me :P zach __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail _______________________________________________ vanilla-devel mailing list vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel From vanillatrek at yahoo.com Wed Aug 18 07:58:06 2004 From: vanillatrek at yahoo.com (Zach) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:03 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] cvs status on cvs.us.netrek.org 2401 In-Reply-To: <20040818020209.GC10786@us.netrek.org> Message-ID: <20040818125806.19313.qmail@web21123.mail.yahoo.com> --- James Cameron wrote: > On Mon, Aug 16, 2004 at 04:20:00PM -0700, Zach wrote: > > Ok I hope to get involved in the PLUG soon as I get a > laptop. > > There's no reason to wait. You don't need to have a > computer to be in a > LUG, and the people in the LUG can be of great help in > selecting a > computer. Ok, I'll see when the next meeting will be. Zach __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail _______________________________________________ vanilla-devel mailing list vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel From Shadow.Hunter at netrek.org Sun Aug 22 15:35:37 2004 From: Shadow.Hunter at netrek.org (E. Hietbrink) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:04 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] metaserver2.us.netrek.org down Message-ID: <41290399.5020708@netrek.org> Hi, I've been noticing that metaserver2.us.netrek.org is down for some time now. telnet metaserver2.us.netrek.org 3521 Of course we have a backup at metaserver.us.netrek.org. telnet metaserver.us.netrek.org 3521 However, the generic hostname metaserver.netrek.org maps to the two ip addresses of the servers mentioned above. For some reason my DNS resolver *always* picks the first one and later tries the second. Result is that when I start netrek -m i have to wait ages. And in netrekXPmod latest version there is no status screen visible indicating something is happening, so that is quite confusing. I can imagine many newbies wondering if they doubleclicked the icon at all... So Carlos, or whoever operates metaserver2.us.netrek.org, can you restart the metaserver? And if not, Sven, can you remove the second entry in the DNS record? Greetx, Erik _______________________________________________ vanilla-devel mailing list vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel From unbelver at us.netrek.org Sun Aug 22 15:58:32 2004 From: unbelver at us.netrek.org (Carlos Y. Villalpando) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:04 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] metaserver2.us.netrek.org down In-Reply-To: <41290399.5020708@netrek.org> References: <41290399.5020708@netrek.org> Message-ID: <20040822205832.GA23451@brain.jpl.nasa.gov> Quoting E. Hietbrink : > I've been noticing that metaserver2.us.netrek.org is down for some > time now. "Some time" is about 28 hours from the time of THIS message. The machine that hosts the metaserver (and keyserver) was taken down Saturday morning US by Dave Ahn due to a security compromise. He is in the process of re-bulding it, but it is the US weekend. > So Carlos, or whoever operates metaserver2.us.netrek.org, can you > restart the metaserver? Generally, if the meta dies, its re-started within 5 minutes or so. But not much one can do if the machine is off. > And if not, Sven, can you remove the second entry in the DNS record? That's a little premature after only less than 30 hours. Give Dave some time. --Carlos V. _______________________________________________ vanilla-devel mailing list vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel From Shadow.Hunter at netrek.org Sun Aug 22 18:26:29 2004 From: Shadow.Hunter at netrek.org (Shadow Hunter) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:04 2005 Subject: [META] Re: [Vanilla Devel] metaserver2.us.netrek.org down In-Reply-To: <20040822205832.GA23451@brain.jpl.nasa.gov> References: <41290399.5020708@netrek.org> <20040822205832.GA23451@brain.jpl.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <41292BA5.6060400@netrek.org> >>I've been noticing that metaserver2.us.netrek.org is down for some >>time now. > "Some time" is about 28 hours from the time of THIS message. > > The machine that hosts the metaserver (and keyserver) was taken down > Saturday morning US by Dave Ahn due to a security compromise. He is > in the process of re-bulding it, but it is the US weekend. > Dave sent a message about half day ago that > orion machine was compromised and is being > rebuilt from the scratch. > > It'll take some time to get it back and Carlos > has nothing to do with that ;) Ok, sorry i missed that other message. I'll wait for dave then. Greetx, Erik _______________________________________________ vanilla-devel mailing list vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel From sven at ping.de Mon Aug 23 02:47:39 2004 From: sven at ping.de (Sven Neuhaus) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:04 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] Re: metaserver2.us.netrek.org down In-Reply-To: <41290399.5020708@netrek.org> References: <41290399.5020708@netrek.org> Message-ID: <20040823074739.GA23451@ping.de> Hi, I could add another entry metaserver1.us.netrek.org for times like this.. -Sven -- mixed emotions: Watching a bus-load of lawyers plunge off a cliff. With five empty seats. _______________________________________________ vanilla-devel mailing list vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel From techsupport at vup-interactive.de Tue Aug 31 03:32:40 2004 From: techsupport at vup-interactive.de (techsupport@vup-interactive.de) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:04 2005 Subject: [Vanilla Devel] Ihre Anfrage [uid]9c4fadb967112ac1ca0569022e533e5f[/uid] Message-ID: <20040831073235.A6A6394D@mail1.arcor-ip.de> Vielen Dank für Ihre Nachricht und Ihr Interesse an Vivendi Universal Games. Wir bearbeiten Ihre Anfrage so schnell wie möglich. Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Support Team Vivendi-Universal Games _______________________________________________ vanilla-devel mailing list vanilla-devel@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel From ahn at genocide.netrek.org Sat Aug 21 11:15:01 2004 From: ahn at genocide.netrek.org (Dave Ahn) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:55 2005 Subject: [Vanilla List] Netrek services down Message-ID: <20040821161501.GA22037@genocide.netrek.org> Hi folks, I'm sorry announce that netrek services hosted by orion.netrek.org are down until further notice. The machine appears to have been compromised, and we are looking into restoring these services as soon as possible. This outage affects the Netrek FTP site, mailing lists at lists.netrek.org, some parts of the Netrek home page, the Netrek meta server, one of the netrek test servers and a few other resources running on orion. Dave _______________________________________________ vanilla-list mailing list vanilla-list@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list From ant at solace.mh.se Sun Aug 22 15:46:36 2004 From: ant at solace.mh.se (Anthony Whitehead) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:55 2005 Subject: [Vanilla List] Netrek services down In-Reply-To: <20040821161501.GA22037@genocide.netrek.org> References: <20040821161501.GA22037@genocide.netrek.org> Message-ID: <200408222246.41998.ant@solace.mh.se> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 21 August 2004 18.15, Dave Ahn wrote: > Hi folks, > > I'm sorry announce that netrek services hosted by orion.netrek.org are down > until further notice. The machine appears to have been compromised, and we > are looking into restoring these services as soon as possible. This outage > affects the Netrek FTP site, mailing lists at lists.netrek.org, some parts > of the Netrek home page, the Netrek meta server, one of the netrek test > servers and a few other resources running on orion. Sorry to hear this, if Solace can do anything to help please let us know. We can provide FTP, Web and mailing list space if required. Its a real shame that idiots feel the need to attack others to satisfy whatever power rush they seem to get. - -- /Anthony Whitehead Unix Sysadmin PGP Key: http://www.solace.mh.se/~ant/ant.pubkey 1024D/1963012A 49C3 A871 43A8 B912 12D2 046E 8FCC 6062 1963 012A - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBKQYwj8xgYhljASoRApsfAJ9TSyLAyKjTHahBuWu5i2t2S5JwfACeJm7n gUqoPdkkwQrS4rAgM5/Y+7A= =C24o -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ vanilla-list mailing list vanilla-list@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list From vanillatrek at yahoo.com Mon Aug 23 08:47:21 2004 From: vanillatrek at yahoo.com (Zach) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:51:55 2005 Subject: [Vanilla List] Netrek services down In-Reply-To: <200408222246.41998.ant@solace.mh.se> Message-ID: <20040823134721.6696.qmail@web21121.mail.yahoo.com> --- Anthony Whitehead wrote: > Its a real shame > that idiots feel the need to attack others to satisfy > whatever power rush > they seem to get. I agree Anthony. They don't seek true understanding only some quick infantile adrenaline rush. Zach __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail _______________________________________________ vanilla-list mailing list vanilla-list@us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-list From Shadow.Hunter at netrek.org Sun Aug 22 15:35:37 2004 From: Shadow.Hunter at netrek.org (E. Hietbrink) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:53:26 2005 Subject: [META] metaserver2.us.netrek.org down Message-ID: <41290399.5020708@netrek.org> Hi, I've been noticing that metaserver2.us.netrek.org is down for some time now. telnet metaserver2.us.netrek.org 3521 Of course we have a backup at metaserver.us.netrek.org. telnet metaserver.us.netrek.org 3521 However, the generic hostname metaserver.netrek.org maps to the two ip addresses of the servers mentioned above. For some reason my DNS resolver *always* picks the first one and later tries the second. Result is that when I start netrek -m i have to wait ages. And in netrekXPmod latest version there is no status screen visible indicating something is happening, so that is quite confusing. I can imagine many newbies wondering if they doubleclicked the icon at all... So Carlos, or whoever operates metaserver2.us.netrek.org, can you restart the metaserver? And if not, Sven, can you remove the second entry in the DNS record? Greetx, Erik _______________________________________________ vanilla-metaserver mailing list vanilla-metaserver@lists.real-time.com https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-metaserver From unbelver at us.netrek.org Sun Aug 22 15:58:32 2004 From: unbelver at us.netrek.org (Carlos Y. Villalpando) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:53:26 2005 Subject: [META] Re: [Vanilla Devel] metaserver2.us.netrek.org down In-Reply-To: <41290399.5020708@netrek.org> References: <41290399.5020708@netrek.org> Message-ID: <20040822205832.GA23451@brain.jpl.nasa.gov> Quoting E. Hietbrink : > I've been noticing that metaserver2.us.netrek.org is down for some > time now. "Some time" is about 28 hours from the time of THIS message. The machine that hosts the metaserver (and keyserver) was taken down Saturday morning US by Dave Ahn due to a security compromise. He is in the process of re-bulding it, but it is the US weekend. > So Carlos, or whoever operates metaserver2.us.netrek.org, can you > restart the metaserver? Generally, if the meta dies, its re-started within 5 minutes or so. But not much one can do if the machine is off. > And if not, Sven, can you remove the second entry in the DNS record? That's a little premature after only less than 30 hours. Give Dave some time. --Carlos V. _______________________________________________ vanilla-metaserver mailing list vanilla-metaserver@lists.real-time.com https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-metaserver From Shadow.Hunter at netrek.org Sun Aug 22 18:26:29 2004 From: Shadow.Hunter at netrek.org (Shadow Hunter) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:53:26 2005 Subject: [META] Re: [Vanilla Devel] metaserver2.us.netrek.org down In-Reply-To: <20040822205832.GA23451@brain.jpl.nasa.gov> References: <41290399.5020708@netrek.org> <20040822205832.GA23451@brain.jpl.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <41292BA5.6060400@netrek.org> >>I've been noticing that metaserver2.us.netrek.org is down for some >>time now. > "Some time" is about 28 hours from the time of THIS message. > > The machine that hosts the metaserver (and keyserver) was taken down > Saturday morning US by Dave Ahn due to a security compromise. He is > in the process of re-bulding it, but it is the US weekend. > Dave sent a message about half day ago that > orion machine was compromised and is being > rebuilt from the scratch. > > It'll take some time to get it back and Carlos > has nothing to do with that ;) Ok, sorry i missed that other message. I'll wait for dave then. Greetx, Erik _______________________________________________ vanilla-metaserver mailing list vanilla-metaserver@lists.real-time.com https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-metaserver From sven at ping.de Mon Aug 23 02:47:39 2004 From: sven at ping.de (Sven Neuhaus) Date: Wed Jan 12 00:53:26 2005 Subject: [META] Re: metaserver2.us.netrek.org down In-Reply-To: <41290399.5020708@netrek.org> References: <41290399.5020708@netrek.org> Message-ID: <20040823074739.GA23451@ping.de> Hi, I could add another entry metaserver1.us.netrek.org for times like this.. -Sven -- mixed emotions: Watching a bus-load of lawyers plunge off a cliff. With five empty seats. _______________________________________________ vanilla-metaserver mailing list vanilla-metaserver@lists.real-time.com https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-metaserver