In previous mail, E. Hietbrink spouted... > > Netrek in its current form was born in 1988, so that should adequately predate > this patent. But many of the game features that you inquire are even present > in Netrek's direct predecessors, Xtrek, Conquest and Empire, dating back to the > early 80's. I am looking at title page of the original version of 'empire' at the moment, the game that all these derive from. "Copyright 1977, 78, 83 -- by Charles Miller and Gary Fritz" I can get you contact information for Miller if you'd like - I have no idea with Fritz has been for the past 20+ years, tho. This is not being sent to Nick - if you want to forward it on, please feel free. John -- "I'm sorry but our engineers do not have phones." As stated by a Network Solutions Customer Service representative when asked to put me through to an engineer. "My other computer is your windows box." Ralf Hildebrandt _______________________________________________ vanilla-devel mailing list vanilla-devel at us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel