From tanner at real-time.com  Wed Oct  4 14:32:54 2006
From: tanner at real-time.com (Bob Tanner)
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 14:32:54 -0500
Subject: [netrek-dev] Mailman offline for security patch
Message-ID: <200610041432.55668.tanner@real-time.com>

I'll be taking mailman offline at 1500 CDT for a security patch.

[DSA 1188-1] New mailman packages fix several problems

Package        : mailman
Vulnerability  : format string
Problem type   : remote
Debian-specific: no
CVE IDs        : CVE-2006-3636 CVE-2006-4624
BugTraq ID     : 19831

Several security related problems have been discovered in mailman, the
web-based GNU mailing list manager.  The Common Vulnerabilities and
Exposures project identifies the following problems:
-- 
Bob Tanner <tanner at real-time.com>          | Phone : (952)943-8700
http://www.real-time.com, Minnesota, Linux | Fax   : (952)943-8500
Key fingerprint = AB15 0BDF BCDE 4369 5B42  1973 7CF1 A709 2CC1 B288
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From narcis at luky.nl  Wed Oct 25 07:58:30 2006
From: narcis at luky.nl (Narcis)
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 14:58:30 +0200
Subject: [netrek-dev] MacTrek 1.0.0 Released
In-Reply-To: <mailman.219.1148514825.31331.netrek-dev@us.netrek.org>
References: <mailman.219.1148514825.31331.netrek-dev@us.netrek.org>
Message-ID: <5DE98CD0-F9EE-4690-A725-0FE6A3652680@luky.nl>

Hi everyone,

i've just released the first version of MacTrek. A completely newly  
written client for Netrek for Mac OS X. I hope that it appeals to the  
"generic"  Mac user that found the COW/X11 way too complicated.  It  
has some nice new features too

- multithreading
- scalable display
- new graphics (themable)
- new sounds
- menu driven configuration
- very easy installation
- single player mode (local server included)
- new Manual

and some drawbacks of which the mayor one is: no RSA

Anyway, i'd love to see what you think of it. and if possible, if  
someone can add the link to the www.netrek.org page (can add the new  
server release at the same time :-)

http://sourceforge.net/projects/mactrek

enjoy

Chris


From netrek at gmail.com  Wed Oct 25 14:44:13 2006
From: netrek at gmail.com (Zach)
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 15:44:13 -0400
Subject: [netrek-dev] MacTrek 1.0.0 Released
In-Reply-To: <5DE98CD0-F9EE-4690-A725-0FE6A3652680@luky.nl>
References: <mailman.219.1148514825.31331.netrek-dev@us.netrek.org>
	<5DE98CD0-F9EE-4690-A725-0FE6A3652680@luky.nl>
Message-ID: <ecfa260c0610251244r1e446bb3he4549eb1dd0ef451@mail.gmail.com>

wow how did u setup local server packaged with the client and get it working?
is the source code available?

zach

On 10/25/06, Narcis <narcis at luky.nl> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> i've just released the first version of MacTrek. A completely newly
> written client for Netrek for Mac OS X. I hope that it appeals to the
> "generic"  Mac user that found the COW/X11 way too complicated.  It
> has some nice new features too
>
> - multithreading
> - scalable display
> - new graphics (themable)
> - new sounds
> - menu driven configuration
> - very easy installation
> - single player mode (local server included)
> - new Manual
>
> and some drawbacks of which the mayor one is: no RSA
>
> Anyway, i'd love to see what you think of it. and if possible, if
> someone can add the link to the www.netrek.org page (can add the new
> server release at the same time :-)
>
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/mactrek
>
> enjoy
>
> Chris
>
> _______________________________________________
> netrek-dev mailing list
> netrek-dev at us.netrek.org
> http://mailman.us.netrek.org/mailman/listinfo/netrek-dev
>


From stephen.thorne at gmail.com  Wed Oct 25 20:15:54 2006
From: stephen.thorne at gmail.com (Stephen Thorne)
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 11:15:54 +1000
Subject: [netrek-dev] MacTrek 1.0.0 Released
In-Reply-To: <5DE98CD0-F9EE-4690-A725-0FE6A3652680@luky.nl>
References: <mailman.219.1148514825.31331.netrek-dev@us.netrek.org>
	<5DE98CD0-F9EE-4690-A725-0FE6A3652680@luky.nl>
Message-ID: <3e8ca5c80610251815qd0718ecqf2b52ce665bad79f@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/25/06, Narcis <narcis at luky.nl> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> i've just released the first version of MacTrek. A completely newly
> written client for Netrek for Mac OS X. I hope that it appeals to the
> "generic"  Mac user that found the COW/X11 way too complicated.  It
> has some nice new features too
>
> - multithreading
> - scalable display
> - new graphics (themable)
> - new sounds
> - menu driven configuration
> - very easy installation
> - single player mode (local server included)
> - new Manual
>
> and some drawbacks of which the mayor one is: no RSA
>
> Anyway, i'd love to see what you think of it. and if possible, if
> someone can add the link to the www.netrek.org page (can add the new
> server release at the same time :-)

I'm going to test this as soon as I get home (delta+10hours or so),
and then if it lets me fire torps and phasers, I'll update the
website.

Yay for mactrek. Hip hip, hooray :)

-- 
Stephen Thorne

"Give me enough bandwidth and a place to sit and I will move the world."
  --Jonathan Lange


From narcis at luky.nl  Thu Oct 26 13:21:08 2006
From: narcis at luky.nl (Narcis)
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 20:21:08 +0200
Subject: [netrek-dev] MacTrek 1.0.0 Released
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1161882002.24792.netrek-dev@us.netrek.org>
References: <mailman.1.1161882002.24792.netrek-dev@us.netrek.org>
Message-ID: <B7AA0017-798B-4032-9E33-CBAA0C6EF6FC@luky.nl>

> Zach wrote in astonishment:
> wow how did u setup local server packaged with the client and get  
> it working?

Hi Zach, well the server is simply compiled the normal way and is  
stored under /usr/local/games the tricky part was including the  
dependend package that are not natively on tiger within the  
deployment. The client simply checks if it can find the dir and  
launches the server as a seperate NSTask, you can even create  
additional robots, but they run just as they would from the  
commandline. They are simply wrapped in an NSTaskWrapper which  
monitors the processes. I did notice that the client does not always  
close the server, resulting in a very long time robots fighting other  
robots. (They had reached commander by the time i got back :-)

> is the source code available?

Will do, as soon as i get around to clean it up a bit, drop me a mail  
if you are in a hurry. (For those interested there is a development  
log at http://mactrek.sourceforge.net but no code)

> Steven is about to download:
>
> I'm going to test this as soon as I get home (delta+10hours or so),
> and then if it lets me fire torps and phasers, I'll update the
> website.
>

I'm quite sure it should do that :-) if not please file a bug report  
through the sourceforge page, i'm confident there are still quite a  
few bugs in there. (Like an echo in Worf's voice)

See you in/at the continium

Chris








From stephen.thorne at gmail.com  Thu Oct 26 17:45:41 2006
From: stephen.thorne at gmail.com (Stephen Thorne)
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 08:45:41 +1000
Subject: [netrek-dev] MacTrek 1.0.0 Released
In-Reply-To: <B7AA0017-798B-4032-9E33-CBAA0C6EF6FC@luky.nl>
References: <mailman.1.1161882002.24792.netrek-dev@us.netrek.org>
	<B7AA0017-798B-4032-9E33-CBAA0C6EF6FC@luky.nl>
Message-ID: <3e8ca5c80610261545q7364db9iae48e6e6ae71ef73@mail.gmail.com>

> I'm quite sure it should do that :-) if not please file a bug report
> through the sourceforge page, i'm confident there are still quite a
> few bugs in there. (Like an echo in Worf's voice)

I didn't manage to test this myself. But I got two mac users on an irc
channel I frequent to try it on both a macbook pro and a powerbook.
Both reported that it crashed with an error logged to the console log.

I'll provide you with a better bug report sometime this weekend (it's
friday day for me now, and I won't be available to do this until
saturday afternoon sometime).

Is the source available? I'd feel more comfortable if I could make a
debug build I can step through. Did you use Xcode? autofu? I found
autofu so painful on OSX that I gave up porting COW to OSX.

-- 
Stephen Thorne

"Give me enough bandwidth and a place to sit and I will move the world."
  --Jonathan Lange


From narcis at luky.nl  Sat Oct 28 03:36:43 2006
From: narcis at luky.nl (Narcis)
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 10:36:43 +0200
Subject: [netrek-dev] netrek-dev Digest, Vol 20, Issue 4
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1161968402.16960.netrek-dev@us.netrek.org>
References: <mailman.1.1161968402.16960.netrek-dev@us.netrek.org>
Message-ID: <B36E7927-004C-4B42-8820-89044F7E15B6@luky.nl>

> Steven reported:
>
>> I'm quite sure it should do that :-) if not please file a bug report
>> through the sourceforge page, i'm confident there are still quite a
>> few bugs in there. (Like an echo in Worf's voice)
>
> I didn't manage to test this myself. But I got two mac users on an irc
> channel I frequent to try it on both a macbook pro and a powerbook.
> Both reported that it crashed with an error logged to the console log.

I pondered on that most of the night :-( then i realized that the  
frameworks were not recompiled as universial binairy then when  
looking a bit futher, i am not sure it the Qt and Quartz frameworks  
are present on a target system if the Developer tools are not installed.

I'll try to clear it up asap and buy another harddisk so i can create  
a clean install of tiger and test on that machine without the  
conamination of my current setup.

> I'll provide you with a better bug report sometime this weekend (it's
> friday day for me now, and I won't be available to do this until
> saturday afternoon sometime).

That would be great.

> Is the source available? I'd feel more comfortable if I could make a
> debug build I can step through. Did you use Xcode? autofu? I found
> autofu so painful on OSX that I gave up porting COW to OSX.

I've sent you the source but for some reason it bounced. It's Xcode,  
and not a port of COW but of JTrek (well that was based on COW too)  
it's re-written in Objective-C and beyond the handling of the  
communication i doubt if you recognize anything from COW :-) any help  
is grreatly appreciated.

regards

C


From narcis at luky.nl  Sat Oct 28 03:46:50 2006
From: narcis at luky.nl (Narcis)
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 10:46:50 +0200
Subject: [netrek-dev] netrek-dev Digest, Vol 20, Issue 4
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1161968402.16960.netrek-dev@us.netrek.org>
References: <mailman.1.1161968402.16960.netrek-dev@us.netrek.org>
Message-ID: <1B0485D0-AFA4-484E-8801-38B22F3A5944@luky.nl>

Darn,

got it.

dyld: Library not loaded: /Volumes/Pear/xcode/Builds/Debug/ 
OmniNetworking.framework/Versions/A/OmniNetworking
   Referenced from: /Applications/MacTrek.app/Contents/MacOS/MacTrek
   Reason: image not found

Despite the fact that the framework is available in the application  
bundle, it seems to be linked directly to the debug version in the  
builds directory. This is why you should never test on development  
machines.

i'm on it

Chris



From narcis at luky.nl  Sun Oct 29 12:33:29 2006
From: narcis at luky.nl (Narcis)
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 19:33:29 +0100
Subject: [netrek-dev] MacTrek 1.0.1
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1162054802.2608.netrek-dev@us.netrek.org>
References: <mailman.1.1162054802.2608.netrek-dev@us.netrek.org>
Message-ID: <52C5A28E-0F17-4585-A99F-F57DC515676B@luky.nl>

Hi,

i believe it is fixed, expect a new release tomorrow, when i have  
access to broaderband internet :-(

grt

Chris


From stephen.thorne at gmail.com  Sun Oct 29 18:30:51 2006
From: stephen.thorne at gmail.com (Stephen Thorne)
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 10:30:51 +1000
Subject: [netrek-dev] MacTrek 1.0.1
In-Reply-To: <52C5A28E-0F17-4585-A99F-F57DC515676B@luky.nl>
References: <mailman.1.1162054802.2608.netrek-dev@us.netrek.org>
	<52C5A28E-0F17-4585-A99F-F57DC515676B@luky.nl>
Message-ID: <3e8ca5c80610291630q45867ac0nf2ee4147ee43e64@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/30/06, Narcis <narcis at luky.nl> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> i believe it is fixed, expect a new release tomorrow, when i have
> access to broaderband internet :-(

excellent. looking forward to it.

-- 
Stephen Thorne

"Give me enough bandwidth and a place to sit and I will move the world."
  --Jonathan Lange


From narcis at luky.nl  Mon Oct 30 11:30:45 2006
From: narcis at luky.nl (Narcis)
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 18:30:45 +0100
Subject: [netrek-dev] MacTrek 1.0.1 Released
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1162054802.2608.netrek-dev@us.netrek.org>
References: <mailman.1.1162054802.2608.netrek-dev@us.netrek.org>
Message-ID: <22A2E2DE-9057-4688-B739-569A55C28D26@luky.nl>

Hi,

checkout http://mactrek.sourceforge.net for the latest release which  
should have OmniFrameworks included in the app bundle.

regards

Chris


From netrek at gmail.com  Mon Oct 30 22:44:21 2006
From: netrek at gmail.com (Zach)
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 23:44:21 -0500
Subject: [netrek-dev] MacTrek 1.0.1 Released
In-Reply-To: <22A2E2DE-9057-4688-B739-569A55C28D26@luky.nl>
References: <mailman.1.1162054802.2608.netrek-dev@us.netrek.org>
	<22A2E2DE-9057-4688-B739-569A55C28D26@luky.nl>
Message-ID: <ecfa260c0610302044m38002e06k79ccd39b5130821a@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/30/06, Narcis <narcis at luky.nl> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> checkout http://mactrek.sourceforge.net for the latest release which
> should have OmniFrameworks included in the app bundle.

Did you make that image on the frontpage which shows the 2 ships? Very
nice artwork.
I would love to try this client but I don't have a Mac. Anyone know
how to emulate Mac OS under Linux so I can try this?

Zach


From stephen.thorne at gmail.com  Tue Oct 31 00:53:14 2006
From: stephen.thorne at gmail.com (Stephen Thorne)
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 16:53:14 +1000
Subject: [netrek-dev] MacTrek 1.0.1 Released
In-Reply-To: <ecfa260c0610302044m38002e06k79ccd39b5130821a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.1.1162054802.2608.netrek-dev@us.netrek.org>
	<22A2E2DE-9057-4688-B739-569A55C28D26@luky.nl>
	<ecfa260c0610302044m38002e06k79ccd39b5130821a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3e8ca5c80610302253n48af17aboc62f33895464fd44@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/31/06, Zach <netrek at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/30/06, Narcis <narcis at luky.nl> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > checkout http://mactrek.sourceforge.net for the latest release which
> > should have OmniFrameworks included in the app bundle.
>
> Did you make that image on the frontpage which shows the 2 ships? Very
> nice artwork.
> I would love to try this client but I don't have a Mac. Anyone know
> how to emulate Mac OS under Linux so I can try this?

Can't be done, sorry.

Go to an apple store and ask if you can try it out I guess?

-- 
Stephen Thorne

"Give me enough bandwidth and a place to sit and I will move the world."
  --Jonathan Lange


From jrd at gerdesas.com  Tue Oct 31 01:39:43 2006
From: jrd at gerdesas.com (John R. Dennison)
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 01:39:43 -0600
Subject: [netrek-dev] MacTrek 1.0.1 Released
In-Reply-To: <3e8ca5c80610302253n48af17aboc62f33895464fd44@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.1.1162054802.2608.netrek-dev@us.netrek.org>
	<22A2E2DE-9057-4688-B739-569A55C28D26@luky.nl>
	<ecfa260c0610302044m38002e06k79ccd39b5130821a@mail.gmail.com>
	<3e8ca5c80610302253n48af17aboc62f33895464fd44@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20061031073943.GY27491@legolas.gerdesas.com>

On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 04:53:14PM +1000, Stephen Thorne wrote:
> 
> Can't be done, sorry.

	Actually it /can/ be done.  Key is that the user must own
	the install media for the OS.

	Google shows multiple emulator packages available, some
	commercial and some open-source / freeware.

	Please note that I am not a Mac user and I have never tried
	any of these packages so your milage may vary.




							John

-- 
"I'm sorry but our engineers do not have phones."
As stated by a Network Solutions Customer Service representative when asked to
be put through to an engineer.

"My other computer is your windows box."
                                     Ralf Hildebrandt


From narcis at luky.nl  Tue Oct 31 15:41:29 2006
From: narcis at luky.nl (Narcis)
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 22:41:29 +0100
Subject: [netrek-dev] OS X on Linux
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1162317602.17117.netrek-dev@us.netrek.org>
References: <mailman.1.1162317602.17117.netrek-dev@us.netrek.org>
Message-ID: <232071BD-7EAE-4593-AE86-545B54C1DE31@luky.nl>

> I would love to try this client but I don't have a Mac. Anyone know
> how to emulate Mac OS under Linux so I can try this?

Technically yes: VMWare can create a virtual machine and at  
www.osx86project.org are some answers on how to install OS X on it,  
but i (and apples layers) wouldn't recommend it. In theory it could  
be compiled on Linux too. The nextstep frameworks are open source, i  
would probably need to rewrite mayor parts using only the  
constructions available in that frame work...

I'll leave that as an excercise :-)

regards

Chris


From akb+lists.netrek-dev at mirror.to  Tue Oct 31 19:51:24 2006
From: akb+lists.netrek-dev at mirror.to (Andrew K. Bressen)
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 20:51:24 -0500
Subject: [netrek-dev] MacTrek 1.0.1 Released
In-Reply-To: <22A2E2DE-9057-4688-B739-569A55C28D26@luky.nl> (narcis@luky.nl's
	message of "Mon, 30 Oct 2006 18:30:45 +0100")
References: <mailman.1.1162054802.2608.netrek-dev@us.netrek.org>
	<22A2E2DE-9057-4688-B739-569A55C28D26@luky.nl>
Message-ID: <0qiri0aq8z.fsf@lanconius.mirror.to>


Narcis <narcis at luky.nl> writes:
> checkout http://mactrek.sourceforge.net for the latest release which  
> should have OmniFrameworks included in the app bundle.

Hi!

I'm losing. 
I downloaded 1.0.1 and did the client and font installs. 
But when I click on the app, very little happens; a little disk activity,
then nothing. No icon ever shows on the dock, no windows, no error
messages. I tried rebooting the machine.

The machine is a G3 ibook running OS X Panther (10.3.9).

What do I try next?

  --andy
(also, when I mounted the .dmg, the finder window with the package
files in it opened halfway off the right side of the screen; I have no
idea if window position comes from the package or if it was just the
finder doing something random...)



From stephen.thorne at gmail.com  Tue Oct 31 21:59:14 2006
From: stephen.thorne at gmail.com (Stephen Thorne)
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 13:59:14 +1000
Subject: [netrek-dev] MacTrek 1.0.1 Released
In-Reply-To: <0qiri0aq8z.fsf@lanconius.mirror.to>
References: <mailman.1.1162054802.2608.netrek-dev@us.netrek.org>
	<22A2E2DE-9057-4688-B739-569A55C28D26@luky.nl>
	<0qiri0aq8z.fsf@lanconius.mirror.to>
Message-ID: <3e8ca5c80610311959k3d2c85fcydc01d453ae1a74f0@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/1/06, Andrew K. Bressen <akb+lists.netrek-dev at mirror.to> wrote:
> I'm losing.
> I downloaded 1.0.1 and did the client and font installs.
> But when I click on the app, very little happens; a little disk activity,
> then nothing. No icon ever shows on the dock, no windows, no error
> messages. I tried rebooting the machine.
>
> The machine is a G3 ibook running OS X Panther (10.3.9).
>
> What do I try next?

Open Console.app and see if there's a crashlog.

-- 
Stephen Thorne

"Give me enough bandwidth and a place to sit and I will move the world."
  --Jonathan Lange