To be honest Zach, if you're really interested in this just read the archives from last year. Rado posted dozens (hundreds?) of times on this subject, so you could probably answer your own question. To be honest, though, the conversation between Rado and others wasn't so much on what was "fair" or not, but more of whether or not there should be an "official" review of "fairness". As you can probably tell, it was dry reading and to be honest I didn't read much of it as it became a circular argument really fast. See my prior email to get the link to "Tireless Rebutter". However, I would please ask the list to please not bring this up again. It was terribly dull and unproductive the first time around. I'm certainly not a real contributer here, and I was never really clue, so please don't take my opinion as carrying a lot of weight. However, I've gone through a lot of tubes during my time on "teh internets" and one thing I do know well is this: how to spot list trolls and dull threads. "Fair play" as a thread will not deliver and will only serve to feed the lonely men living under the bridges of cyberspace. I would suggest instead we talk about: 1) Patches, game mods, you know, CODE STUFF. 2) Xbox360 port (to be honest the coolest idea I've heard in a while) 3) Paradise vs Bronco flamefests -- oops, forgot, those have been done to death too ;-) Jeffrey. On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 6:15 PM, Zach <netrek at gmail.com> wrote: > Rado would have to elaborate on precisely what he mean by "fair play" > and what is currently limiting it from being realized, however I think > social behaviour can affect netrek health. -- "He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." -- Thomas Paine