I go away for a weekend of holidays and Apple decides to post the game on their website: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/games/action_adventure/ mactrek.html sourceforge clocked over 3300 downloads. but i have not had much feedback, how's life on the servers been? are they crawling with newbies? It would be a great achievement if it would bring substantial new players to the game (and fun too) Next week i'll try to figure out the marriage between Xcode and CVS on sourceforge (sigh) and release the code i a way that everybody that likes can contribute. Probably need to add a developer guide of some sort too, Doxygen is fun, but not really readable. regards Chris