Moin, <joee1> I am just trying to understand the purpose of the plan you proposed on the dev list. Ultimately bring more fun to trek and more people following the fun to us. - a system to produce "fair" clients: no cheating, no borg. - a system to allow trek variants next to each other, ideally cooperatively, but at least peacefully, no discrimination, for people to pick their preferred way of trek fun. Later fluctuation will bring people to other flavours, too, so all benefit in the end, if linked together well back and forth (www, ads, metas, clients). For any trek game you need resources like code-, game-, meta- and www-servers to bring the fun to the people and coders. For progress you need a direction, and for efficiency that should be coordinated. This needs some people defining trek variants and controling (with help of agents) that this works smoothly. If something is needed to know for developers (or any contributors), those coordinators should know and respond quickly (dev- and user-support and cheat-control can be time expensive, so not suitable for all current owner to have even more load). If those purposes are not desired, forget all about the "plan". If either of them are (both are independent from each other, but need the same action of definition + control), then it's easier to reuse existing resources than to build them up from zero. Therefore the current owners support at least must be checked first. At best they'd even pick up the role of definers and controlers ("directors"). If there is neither active participation nor indirect support/ tolerance by the owners, others have to be found. That's what the "plan" and suggested roles is about as described in detail in the "call for feedback" eMail. Given the discussion that took place before I assumed that was basically clear, just needed refinement to the core. Note: this is about Paradise, _too_, but even without it, the same plan would stand for "fair Bronco clients" alone. -- © Rado S. -- You must provide YOUR effort for your goal! EVERY effort counts: at least to show your attitude. You're responsible for ALL you do: you get what you give.