Observations of passages on netrek.org: "It costs no money to play, there are no ads, and it's open source." and right next to it "Paradise 2000", that's ... contradictory. Please use irc://irc.freenode.net/#netrek (with the '#'), to avoid confusion with a potential "netrek" user. http://www.netrek.org/servers/machines.php Please add paradise.homeunix.org (type Paradise), notes: - local modifications to ship selection, CV "carrier" is CC "calamari" and might work differently (untested). - not all ships available (like PT). - wormholes enabled. (2-3 more servers might come later when ready) Downloads: misses Paradise + TedTurner, add with notes that it can play both Paradise + Bronco. http://www.netrek.org/downloads/clients/ - Ad p2k see above: "which means that the Netrek source code is freely available." - Ad RSA see "consensus" response in other mail: "To prevent cheating, all official client binaries authenticate themselves via RSA to the server. They are called "blessed" clients." If consensus says it's pointless, drop it altogether. Otherwise let's have a functional/ controlled system (even if unperfect). - Ad TedTurner: I read Dave has added some patches recently to correct errors with torps, but I have no idea where he stored the code now... maybe you can clarify this with him to correct the link and propagate it to us. - Ad Paradise missing: TT is just flashier, but basically they do the same. It's smaller/ leaner and therefore preference for some. Paradise still works fine like brmh. http://www.netrek.org/servers/variants.php Link Paradise to http://paradise.netrek.org/ -- © Rado S. -- You must provide YOUR effort for your goal! EVERY effort counts: at least to show your attitude. You're responsible for ALL you do: you get what you give.