I agree. "No connection" in your telnet output means one of the metaservers is unable to make a TCP connection to pickled, and may not have received any UDP updates from pickled. I guess it depends on what has changed since Saturday 25th. Karthik hasn't let me know. [00:00:00] - {Day changed to Saturday, 25 July 2020} [17:10:20] --> Bahhumbug (jrd at psychotic/admin/jrd) has joined #netrek [17:12:18] <Bahhumbug> Quozl: I've just sent Karthik email asking him to move pickled at his earliest opportunity. I will be killing that instance off in the next few days when the bill comes due. I've spent a considerable amount of money over the past ~10 years hosting that instance but the time has come for me to divest myself of it. I no longer have a client installed on my desktop and I will be removing myself from [17:12:24] <Bahhumbug> mailing lists when I get around to it. I'm done with netrek. [17:12:26] <Bahhumbug> Just wanted you to be aware. [17:12:46] <Bahhumbug> See ya. [17:12:49] <-- Bahhumbug (jrd at psychotic/admin/jrd) has left #netrek [00:00:00] - {Day changed to Sunday, 26 July 2020} -- James Cameron http://quozl.netrek.org/