On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 12:56:33PM -0500, Zachary Uram wrote: > yikes > took 25 hops to get there from my machine > can u say 'lost packets'! LOL :) > the machine is somewhere in Germany Eeeeeeeeeww, guess you're not man enough to play there then. FYI, here's a trace from that box to CMU. Doesn't look shabby to me at all. The lost packet at the last hop seems to be a CMU problem, it's always there and exactly there. $ traceroute cmu.edu traceroute to cmu.edu (128.2.35.186), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 cisco (62.72.90.1) 3.789 ms 2.986 ms 4.276 ms 2 212.93.5.209 (212.93.5.209) 11.023 ms 3.353 ms 3.915 ms 3 gw2.Dortmund2.de.alter.net (139.4.73.161) 3.775 ms 4.084 ms 3.725 ms 4 cr1.Dortmund1.de.alter.net (139.4.41.14) 4.017 ms 3.840 ms 3.832 ms 5 191.ATM1-0.cr1.Frankfurt1.de.alter.net (149.227.31.213) 7.992 ms 7.787 ms 8.405 ms 6 114.ATM2-0-0.xr2.Frankfurt1.de.alter.net (149.227.31.42) 8.032 ms 8.230 ms 8.432 ms 7 SO-1-0-0.TR1.FFT1.Alter.Net (146.188.8.142) 7.886 ms 8.570 ms 8.339 ms 8 SO-4-0-0.IR1.NYC12.Alter.Net (146.188.3.201) 90.232 ms 94.570 ms 90.423 ms 9 so-1-0-0.IR1.NYC9.ALTER.NET (152.63.23.61) 90.303 ms 90.120 ms 90.323 ms 10 119.at-5-0-0.TR1.DCA6.ALTER.NET (152.63.1.98) 95.412 ms 97.090 ms 96.796 ms 11 187.at-5-1-0.XR1.DCA1.ALTER.NET (152.63.33.205) 96.889 ms 98.623 ms 96.670 ms 12 195.ATM7-0.GW3.PIT1.ALTER.NET (152.63.36.249) 102.025 ms 101.886 ms 101.971 ms 13 psc-gw2.customer.alter.net (65.194.72.114) 103.058 ms 104.869 ms 102.720 ms 14 cmu.psc.net (198.32.224.36) 103.819 ms 103.609 ms 108.391 ms 15 CYH-A100-VLAN255.GW.CMU.NET (128.2.255.35) 105.440 ms 105.358 ms 115.186 ms 16 CMU1.ACS.CMU.EDU (128.2.35.186) 104.899 ms * 103.934 ms So maybe you will dare to show up despite 105ms of lag insanity :-) We'll be waiting for you. -Sven / Courier -- The Lord prefers common-looking people. That is the reason that He makes so many of them. -- Abraham Lincoln