That statement is part sarcasm. Just for the record, I hate Netrek because I am not good it. Yes I still play Netrek sometimes, maybe 30 minutes or an hour a week, no where near what I put into it back in college. Instead of me trying to play it and become good at it, I am trying to do something new and different that could increase my skill set and make me more money in the future. Also I wanted to do something more educational to pull people who could code into the Netrek community. The idea is that newbies who start writing bots for Netrek would first need to learn what it is about, and maybe after writing a few bots they would want to get involved at a higher level. I am willing to help out with the core netrek code, but I don't have access to UNIX/Linux right now and probably won't have my old Linux box up and running again until next month or so. I guess one of the biggest things that could be done with netrek is probably to make some design documents for it. Has this ever been brought up? Darryl -----Original Message----- I apologize for trying to leverage your efforts for the bigger community. Building/rebuilding on top of existing software would be better for us but is obviously not very appealing to you, particularly in light of how much you hate netrek. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3043 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://shadowknight.real-time.com/pipermail/netrek-dev/attachments/20011205/9c6571aa/smime.bin