Even isometric view like Age of Empires would be an acceptable 3D style view. It's mechanically 2D, but *looks* 3D. http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs.cmu.edu/usr/jch/netrek/humor The post by Andrew Markiel shows an alternate way to present the game that may have some public appeal. -- James Cameron mailto:quozl at us.netrek.org http://quozl.netrek.org/