=- James Cameron wrote on Wed 15.Aug'07 at 14:20:03 +1000 -= > > - Once people don't react to requests addressed to the general > > public in the flow of the list traffic, how to engage specific > > people's interest to respond publicly? > > {...} If you find they are not responding, check to see if you are > doing the best you can - see How To Ask Questions The Smart Way. > > http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Can you give an example for a question I posed badly and how you would have put it better? > If you continue to get no response, then your request is just not > interesting enough. 1st problem can be that the intended recipient might not be aware it's intended for him. That's why I've put names explicitely the 2nd time to exclude this possibility. Then they reacted as they did -> done (unless asked for or left open questions). Dave and Bob made it pretty simple and well. Given their presumed load and limited awareness to regular traffic, it seemed necessary to make it exceptional. > Work to make it more interesting. If the mere matter is not interesting enough in itself, I let it be and rather find those who already share the interest and commitment. All I need(ed) was _positive_ confirmation that the lack of interest is the case and nothing else. I wanted to avoid to start things as described, only later to learn that somebody feels "attacked" by it and then "fights back" when this wasn't the intention. You did now anyway, but better now than later, when there is more to lose and spoil. There is work, and there is work. "Work" makes stuff intended to be fun less fun. It's a matter of subjective perception, so have to find out individually with each candidate where the limits are. > Do not attempt direct contact with specific people unless they have > invited you to do so. There are several reasons for this, {...} Thanks for the advice, but I was aware of that already. Not only that, it also was/is my own and primary interest to resolve this publicly for all to know, so that it need not be re-chewed again. Maybe I wasn't the first to ask those questions, but nobody pointed me to existing answers and confirmed that they still applied. > {...} and you can find some of them at > http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/why.phtml which is what I give > to people who write to me on that project instead of posting to > the mailing list. I can't remember having written to anyone in private. If it was, then as mistake (unless asked for). -- © Rado S. -- You must provide YOUR effort for your goal! EVERY effort counts: at least to show your attitude. You're responsible for ALL you do: you get what you give.