Well, we're kind of talking about two things here. The two voices that have spoken up are both those of people who were offering code. Rado is not, he's proposing organization and that "others" do "things". There's a big difference. I do not doubt that you found resistance to your changes - Netrek (especially Bronco) has always been resistant to change. Some argue that's a weakness, some a strength. However I personally think it's wrong to dismiss ideas out of hand. However, we're really not talking about the kind of situation you went through. We're talking about someone with a pathological need to get the last word and argue. Here's a link to a classic site. I think he's "Tireless Rebutter": http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/tirelessrebutter.htm Jeffrey. On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 5:57 PM, . . <msucka0xff at programmer.net> wrote: > > No doubt James has done a good job. However, I would like to see an open > door policy, where over time I can come back out of the wood work and give > my latest updates. The "put up or shutup" approach does not historically > represent how netrek developed, and I don't think it useful today. It seems > to imply that because I am stronger than you (or vise versa), my voice > should be heard the loudest, but as you know intelligence is lost in this > model. I think Rado may not be seeing such an open door policy and thus > cause for his concern. -- "He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." -- Thomas Paine