Re: cool things : There has been several calls for bringing novelity to netrek over time, and efforts have entertained ways to achieve this, so it's not necessarily out of the ordinary. It was mostly targeted at meeting the changes of the current generation, and bringing netrek to meet that challenge. A netrek web client is one example of this, or updating the GUI. Clearly there should be the opportunity to at least present the development work, but my experience was confronted by obstructionist behavior, which totally flipped me out. What is worse is that it is reoccuring with the departure of Nick Slager, and Trent's experiences point to some of the issues. Social issues like this are not easily addressed. No doubt James has done a good job. However, I would like to see an open door policy, where over time I can come back out of the wood work and give my latest updates. The "put up or shutup" approach does not historically represent how netrek developed, and I don't think it useful today. It seems to imply that because I am stronger than you (or vise versa), my voice should be heard the loudest, but as you know intelligence is lost in this model. I think Rado may not be seeing such an open door policy and thus cause for his concern. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Mielke" To: "Netrek Development Mailing List" Subject: Re: [netrek-dev] merit of code Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 18:28:04 -0400 Just like any other open source project - "cool things" are not always desired. If you went to the Linux kernel list and presented yourself the same as Rado, demanding for somebody in authority to offer volunteers to work on your favourite whizbang feature, the reaction would be far more hostile than we see here. There are people that put up, and there are people that talk. As far as I am concerned, James has been putting up. I find myself continuously confused over what Rado is asking for (over months or years?), and see him being critical of James and existing process. My first reaction will definitely be to challenge Rado under these circumstances. -- Want an e-mail address like mine? Get a free e-mail account today at www.mail.com! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.us.netrek.org/pipermail/netrek-dev/attachments/20080331/5e3842a4/attachment-0002.htm